NO to a second server!

[Bisonzabi]

pls ban anyone using anything BUT a 56k dialup modem.

#KeepIt1999 #Windows98FOREVER

[pharmakos]

Yes to second server being enforced roleplaying!

[Amaurot]

I don't understand the whole pvp server argument. You have a book of discord? Noone's stopping you from going red.

[Danger]

Originally Posted by Amaurot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand the whole pvp server argument. You have a book of discord? Noone's stopping you from going red.

Yeah, you don't understand, which is fine. You haven't played EQ pvp, most people haven't.

Turning in that book makes you unhealable and unbuffable by anyone who didnt turn in the book and makes grouping/raiding/anything basically impossible.

So then what, you're relegated to grouping with the other people who turned in the book (so you're probably not going going to pvp them) but still cant contest camps or other disputes via pvp with those who didnt turn in the book.

Dumb.

Eq on a pvp server feels different. You're constantly checking who's in your zone to see if a new person you dont know is around. People start asking if anyone knows Amaurot, what class/level is he? Is he a good dude? Most people run /anon or /roleplay so you dont know what class or level they are and if they're a threat

Conflicts or resources competition can be resolved by combat. Sure you can harmtouch that Ranger low on hp fighting a rabid grizzly bear because you want the bear for yourself but your reputation will follow you, and is in some ways more important than on a non pvp server. Maybe the Ranger gets his friends and they hunt you down.

It brings an element of both paranoia and community bonding while resolving list mechanics and the ability to address territorial disputes.

Now, a lot of people will point to the red server's languishing population as proof of an EQ PvP server not working, well I can only mention there is A LOT more to that story than most are aware of which include huge changes to PvP mechanics and group dynamics and SEVERAL staff members who are all no longer staff members.

[gangsta]

Originally Posted by Danger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, you don't understand, which is fine. You haven't played EQ pvp, most people haven't.

Turning in that book makes you unhealable and unbuffable by anyone who didnt turn in the book and makes grouping/raiding/anything basically impossible.

So then what, you're relegated to grouping with the other people who turned in the book (so you're probably not going going to pvp them) but still cant contest camps or other disputes via pvp with those who didnt turn in the book.

Dumb.

Eq on a pvp server feels different. You're constantly checking who's in your zone to see if a new person you dont know is around. People start asking if anyone knows Amaurot, what class/level is he? Is he a good dude? Most people run /anon or /roleplay so you dont know what class or level they are and if they're a threat

Conflicts or resources competition can be resolved by combat. Sure you can harmtouch that Ranger low on hp fighting a rabid grizzly bear because you want the bear for yourself but your reputation will follow you, and is in some ways more important than on a non pvp server. Maybe the Ranger gets his friends and they hunt you down.

It brings an element of both paranoia and community bonding while resolving list mechanics and the ability to address territorial disputes.

Now, a lot of people will point to the red server's languishing population as proof of an EQ PvP server not working, well I can only mention there is A LOT more to that story than most are aware of which include huge changes to PvP mechanics and group dynamics and SEVERAL staff members who are all no longer staff members.

This man should be ours spokesman. Took the words from my mouth. If you need a description of our blight look no further.

[Smashed]

Originally Posted by Danger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now, a lot of people will point to the red server's languishing population as proof of an EQ PvP server not working, well I can only mention there is A LOT more to that story than most are aware of which include huge changes to PvP mechanics and group dynamics and SEVERAL staff members who are all no longer staff members.

Whenever people speak in defense of the red server, it sounds like my old college friends telling me why communism would be so cool and would have totally worked in the Soviet Union if it wasn’t for x, y, and z. For sure, man.

[Danger]

Also its fun.

[tinklepee]

Just add guild wars to green, no need to split the pop

[Lordgordon]

I voted no because im level 40 already and have looted 10 manastones.

[Gustoo]

Haha yeah at real launch people spent like 5 hours finding their guild master and talking to NPCs not suicide rushing skeletons and shitting pants if they had a staff