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[Teppler]

The propaganda will be about “WE NEED CAPITALISM” but really capitalism doesn’t exist anywhere in the world in 2019. In America we have rule by big corporate interests, that’s the final form of capitalism. Is it better if corporate interests defeat the state? Why?

These are western elites trying to pressure the China government through shady means. Our cia is involved for sure. The same people who fund protests in America are funding them over there. It’s a really effective way to fuck a country up which is why China is going ballistic right now.

[Thrombosis]

The lure of capitalism and free markets ends once it starts undermining the national interest imo. The West has been so dumb in allowing Chinese corporations, which are controlled by, or at least loyal to, the politbureau in Beijing, take huge stakes in western industries. It's not just China, in my own country we've seen vital industries taken over by foreign state-owned players where our own companies are not allowed to compete.

Don't overlook the role of the mainstream media either, it seems crazy to me that in the USA it's seen as brave and inspiring to protest against the US flag/national anthem, but stupid/far-right to protest against China's brutal crackdown in Hong Kong, or their concentration camps for Uighur Muslims.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Thrombosis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The lure of capitalism and free markets ends once it starts undermining the national interest imo.

but the capitalist nation-state exists for no reason save to undermine the national interest, comrade. for decades, for generations, for too long have workers of the imperial core failed to stand in solidarity with their worker comrades in the periphery, even as capital gorged itself until it was strong enough to go for that core. suffer not the billionaire to live.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Thrombosis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The lure of capitalism and free markets ends once it starts undermining the national interest imo. The West has been so dumb in allowing Chinese corporations, which are controlled by, or at least loyal to, the politbureau in Beijing, take huge stakes in western industries. It's not just China, in my own country we've seen vital industries taken over by foreign state-owned players where our own companies are not allowed to compete.

Don't overlook the role of the mainstream media either, it seems crazy to me that in the USA it's seen as brave and inspiring to protest against the US flag/national anthem, but stupid/far-right to protest against China's brutal crackdown in Hong Kong, or their concentration camps for Uighur Muslims.

"Nationalised services are bad so we are going to sell them off to the highest bidder"

"Whoops another nation bought them... Still counts as privatised."

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it better if corporate interests defeat the state? Why?

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it better if corporate interests defeat the state? Why?

*BIG siP*

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The propaganda will be about “WE NEED CAPITALISM” but really capitalism doesn’t exist anywhere in the world in 2019. In America we have rule by big corporate interests, that’s the final form of capitalism.

Originally Posted by Vladimir Lenin

Imperialism, or the domination of finance capital, is that highest stage of capitalism in which this separation reaches vast proportions. The supremacy of finance capital over all other forms of capital means the predominance of the rentier and of the financial oligarchy; it means that a small number of financially “powerful” states stand out among all the rest.

If it were necessary to give the briefest possible definition of imperialism we should have to say that imperialism is the monopoly stage of capitalism. But very brief definitions, although convenient, for they sum up the main points, are nevertheless inadequate. And so, we must give a definition of imperialism that will include the following five of its basic features:

(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this “finance capital”, of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves, and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed. Imperialism is capitalism at that stage of development at which the dominance of monopolies and finance capital is established; in which the export of capital has acquired pronounced importance; in which the division of the world among the international trusts has begun, in which the division of all territories of the globe among the biggest capitalist powers has been completed.

[Patriam1066]

Did the Hong Kong protests have anything to do with criminal conducting resulting in extradition to mainland China in a clear violation of the “One country, two systems” principal, or is this yet another example of evil American capitalist Jews? Secondary question: have any of you who support the Chinese position seen a vagina?

[Teppler]

You know how pressuring Chinese leaders with the usual social justice tactics(metoo etc...) doesn’t work like it does in the west?

Ask the question, whose tactics are these?

This is the establishment west’s way to take a bite out of an eastern empire that doesn’t fall victim to usual tactics. This might be the first you hear of it but the CIA has a history of doing this exact thing in many different, mostly smaller counties. They create protests that turn into riots in countries where they want to destabilize and put their own rulers who will do good business with western elites.

They attach buzz words to these protests to try and recruit the public and utilize public image. Freedom, democracy, oppressed, capitalism. All buzz words for you to consume.

As odd as it sounds l think if you consider yourself anti establishment in the west you should probably ally yourself with the Chinese government right now. I suspect we have a major common enemy here.

[JayDee]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know how pressuring Chinese leaders with the usual social justice tactics(metoo etc...) doesn’t work like it does in the west?

Ask the question, whose tactics are these?

This is the establishment west’s way to take a bite out of an eastern empire that doesn’t fall victim to usual tactics. This might be the first you hear of it but the CIA has a history of doing this exact thing in many different, mostly smaller counties. They create protests that turn into riots in countries where they want to destabilize and put their own rulers who will do good business with western elites.

They attach buzz words to these protests to try and recruit the public and utilize public image. Freedom, democracy, oppressed, capitalism. All buzz words for you to consume.

As odd as it sounds l think if you consider yourself anti establishment in the west you should probably ally yourself with the Chinese government right now. I suspect we have a major common enemy here.

I like the cut of your jib