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Old 10-07-2019, 05:36 PM
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*ahem*

I did mention a bard tank. And put them where they belong.

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Old 10-07-2019, 05:45 PM
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I wonder if the Bards are going to have that over the top AE mezz at launch.
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Old 10-07-2019, 07:13 PM
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I wonder if the Bards are going to have that over the top AE mezz at launch.
We did on blue.

good times.

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Old 10-07-2019, 07:33 PM
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We did on blue.

good times.

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Did you have the mana free AE?
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Old 10-07-2019, 08:52 PM
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Did you have the mana free AE?
By the time I got to those levels, around april/may 2010 it already had a mana component. There's a high chance it had it from day 0 since bards were severely broken for a long time.

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Old 10-08-2019, 12:47 AM
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This was all actually really informative lol. Plz pleaaaaseee make a caster discussion thread and all y’all have at it. But... please ? :-(
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Old 10-08-2019, 08:36 AM
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When I changed from Necro to DE Cleric during Kunark on live I missed my Necro's pet from time to time. With the start of Velious I built a second pc and started to box.
Guild decided to be on Giant faction, we started to kill in Icewell Keep almost right away and with the Velium Frosted Armor dropping there I twinked an Iksar SK. Probably the first lizard in full plate on the server. I got him a Noctivagant Blade and started to level my pet.

I gave up on it during his 30s. Kill speed sucked, killing a mob just took so very long. I switched to Ranger. Worse armor, acceptable weapons choices (I wasn't rich, things had to be cheap. Most expensive item was the FBSS I think). More utility than the SK - from my point of view - but of course no decent races are able to become Rangers. I settled on a pesky Wood Elf.
The difference was interesting. The kill speed was much higher and due to that I needed less mana to keep the Ranger alive. I didn't expect that. I never looked back at that SK as a Cleric's pet.

Of course with a group it is different, since the SK is not there to be the dps.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:02 AM
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*Stated Ranger needed less healing than an SK*
Yeah, I am hearing a lot about "mitigation" values of Warriors and Knights. What I'd like to know is why some seriously good players I know Wood Elf Warriors instead of the prerfered races. I strongly suspect that AGI is the answer. I may even make a WE Ranger to tank our premade to prove/disprove the point.

Speaking of which, we have a Cleric / Me (Tank) and another who is undecided between Shaman and Druid (Hoping Druid)....what we are looking for are no-lifers with completely open play time and we need Enchanters and Mages to fill our ranks.

Here is the link to our forum post: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=335612
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:21 AM
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I think Rangers are a really great class. Its like a melee blender version of a bard, where the bard focuses more on casting. Harmony, flame lick, decent armor options and respectable damage.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:39 AM
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I think Rangers are a really great class. Its like a melee blender version of a bard, where the bard focuses more on casting. Harmony, flame lick, decent armor options and respectable damage.
Comparing the two:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Ranger#Combat_Skills

https://wiki.project1999.com/Warrior#Combat_Skills

Warrior's seem to get more of everything defensively, mitigation tables aside. Even double attack is higher than a Rangers. I don't see much of anything the Ranger excels at over a Warrior, but for leveling purposes the snap-agro class always wins. I seriously may try Ranger tanking. I think it will bother me not taking this opportunity to know.
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