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Old 09-30-2019, 11:55 AM
Izmael Izmael is offline
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The most important contributng factor to classic feeling is POPULATION. There are still thousands of people in 2019 who are willing to play this 1999 game. Some of the reasons undoubtfully are the little QoL features we have.

For instance, I don't think we'd get ~1000 peak population on Blue, if we were forced to play with the Stone UI in 800x600 at 5-10 FPS. This was classic, though. We'd probably lose even more population if mouse zoom out was deactivated (probably next on the list...). Then some more if full-screen became mandatory. And so on.

Do we want to end up on a server where only 30-50 die-hard "shit's classic" afficionados are playing? Probably not. I'm sure the devs do care about population (yes, despite what some of them said at one point).

Nothing is sadder than empty EQ zones. Try Red today to get a feel of what Blue could be if the classicness continues to be applied without discrimination.

Imagine visiting a place you've spent great holidays at, when you were a kid. You come back and take a nostalgic stroll around, maybe even spend holidays there again with the family you have now.
Suddenly you remember that you had terrible allergies back then. Will you at any point say "I wish I had the allergies again so I can truly relive that moment"? Of course not.

Please leave the NPC/PC cycling, mouse zoom, and whatever other things you guys have the itch to remove on Blue. Do it on Green, just like OP suggested. Everyone will be happy. The hardcore classic nuts will be happy on Green, filthy casuals will have the Blue haven where they can get their EQ fix.
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:21 PM
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The most important contributng factor to classic feeling is POPULATION. There are still thousands of people in 2019 who are willing to play this 1999 game. Some of the reasons undoubtfully are the little QoL features we have.

For instance, I don't think we'd get ~1000 peak population on Blue, if we were forced to play with the Stone UI in 800x600 at 5-10 FPS. This was classic, though. We'd probably lose even more population if mouse zoom out was deactivated (probably next on the list...). Then some more if full-screen became mandatory. And so on.

Do we want to end up on a server where only 30-50 die-hard "shit's classic" afficionados are playing? Probably not. I'm sure the devs do care about population (yes, despite what some of them said at one point).

Nothing is sadder than empty EQ zones. Try Red today to get a feel of what Blue could be if the classicness continues to be applied without discrimination.
Yeah this is another big fall back argument. You have no idea how many, if any, population we will actually lose. For all either of us know they could keep this and also pull out mouse wheel scroll and other things and green will still be wildly popular. If a major population die off happens you can point to these reasons but for the time being we are perfectly stable with WoWC having bled off some numbers (which is not altogether a bad thing).

I agree with Loramin on this though, the biggest factors in P99's population/popularity have been the support and stiff anti-boxing stance and enforcement. Its really a small miracle that this place has existed so long with such relative stability and lack of corruption (note I said relative, not absolute) that tend to bury many other private attempts to do something similar.

We have population, IMO, because people realize they can come here and find other players to chat and group with rather than being outright ignored by a bunch of people running two to six boxes while they masturbate over their insular pixel army.
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:31 PM
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Yeah this is another big fall back argument. You have no idea how many, if any, population we will actually lose. For all either of us know they could keep this and also pull out mouse wheel scroll and other things and green will still be wildly popular. If a major population die off happens you can point to these reasons but for the time being we are perfectly stable with WoWC having bled off some numbers (which is not altogether a bad thing).

I agree with Loramin on this though, the biggest factors in P99's population/popularity have been the support and stiff anti-boxing stance and enforcement. Its really a small miracle that this place has existed so long with such relative stability and lack of corruption (note I said relative, not absolute) that tend to bury many other private attempts to do something similar.

We have population, IMO, because people realize they can come here and find other players to chat and group with rather than being outright ignored by a bunch of people running two to six boxes while they masturbate over their insular pixel army.
I've never thought about quitting until this. If I'm alone in this, then I'm glad the majority of the population is happy with the changes and the box will thrive. I still, perhaps selfishly, want to play the game without the change.
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:33 PM
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I've never thought about quitting until this. If I'm alone in this, then I'm glad the majority of the population is happy with the changes and the box will thrive. I still, perhaps selfishly, want to play the game without the change.
There have to be other underlying factors if you really want to quit. This is not that big of a deal man. Not to mention, I would have hoped most players would have expected quality of life changes and changes outside of the project's intended era, Classic thru Velious, would be removed/fixed at some point.
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:38 PM
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There have to be other underlying factors if you really want to quit. This is not that big of a deal man. Not to mention, I would have hoped most players would have expected quality of life changes and changes outside of the project's intended era, Classic thru Velious, would be removed/fixed at some point.
No underlying factors. It's normal for people to move on if they don't like the changes in a game. The change wasn't unexpected, and I wasn't surprised by it, given the vision of the server. Doesn't mean I have to like it though. We grow accustomed to things. I'll either adapt, or find a new. Either way, no worries.
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:33 PM
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I've never thought about quitting until this. If I'm alone in this, then I'm glad the majority of the population is happy with the changes and the box will thrive. I still, perhaps selfishly, want to play the game without the change.
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:44 PM
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I've never thought about quitting until this. If I'm alone in this, then I'm glad the majority of the population is happy with the changes and the box will thrive. I still, perhaps selfishly, want to play the game without the change.
Look I will give you credit, at least it wasn't a direct threat to Rogean of your intention to quit. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-30-2019, 12:46 PM
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No way, I've had tons of fun on this game. Perhaps the change won't effect my play as much as I think, but it's hard to imagine not* being able to play to the level I'm accustomed.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:55 AM
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Did you really need to make a second thread about this?
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:59 AM
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