I implore the p99 staff to allow Target Through Nearest NPC on BLUE

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Target Me Target your character, just like F1 key.
Player One Target your character, just like F1 key.
Player Two Target Party Member 1, like F2 key.
Player Three Target Party Member 2, like F3 key.
Player Four Target Party Member 3, like F4 key.
Player Five Target Party Member 4, like F5 key.
Player Six Target Party Member 5, like F6 key.
Target Player Target Nearest PC, just like F7 key.
Target Mob Target Nearest NPC, just like F8 key.
Target Pet Targets your pet, otherwise, just targets you.

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That is the copy-and-paste full listing of available bindable targeting commands from the original game manual included in the 2001 Trilogy installation dated July 20 2001. Due to the format it does not conclusively rule out the presence of additional non-bindable commands.

Danth

Great list Danth. I combined it with Daldaen's on the new Targeting wiki page.

[Castamere]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could say this about literally the entire game.

To some extent perhaps. I feel mouse click targeting isn't showing its age nearly as well though.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The most important contributng factor to classic feeling is POPULATION. There are still thousands of people in 2019 who are willing to play this 1999 game. Some of the reasons undoubtfully are the little QoL features we have.

For instance, I don't think we'd get ~1000 peak population on Blue, if we were forced to play with the Stone UI in 800x600 at 5-10 FPS. This was classic, though. We'd probably lose even more population if mouse zoom out was deactivated (probably next on the list...). Then some more if full-screen became mandatory. And so on.

Do we want to end up on a server where only 30-50 die-hard "shit's classic" afficionados are playing? Probably not. I'm sure the devs do care about population (yes, despite what some of them said at one point).

Nothing is sadder than empty EQ zones. Try Red today to get a feel of what Blue could be if the classicness continues to be applied without discrimination.

Yeah this is another big fall back argument. You have no idea how many, if any, population we will actually lose. For all either of us know they could keep this and also pull out mouse wheel scroll and other things and green will still be wildly popular. If a major population die off happens you can point to these reasons but for the time being we are perfectly stable with WoWC having bled off some numbers (which is not altogether a bad thing).

I agree with Loramin on this though, the biggest factors in P99's population/popularity have been the support and stiff anti-boxing stance and enforcement. Its really a small miracle that this place has existed so long with such relative stability and lack of corruption (note I said relative, not absolute) that tend to bury many other private attempts to do something similar.

We have population, IMO, because people realize they can come here and find other players to chat and group with rather than being outright ignored by a bunch of people running two to six boxes while they masturbate over their insular pixel army.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great list Danth. I combined it with Daldaen's on the new Targeting wiki page.

It's useful, but I repeat my caveat from earlier: It does not conclusively rule out the existence of a non-bindable command. That section of the manual related to keybinds specifically.

Danth

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's useful, but I repeat my caveat from earlier: It does not conclusively rule out the existence of a non-bindable command. That section of the manual related to keybinds specifically.

Danth

Oh, I'm not even coming at it from a "classic evidence" angle. I'm just trying to educate everyone on what their targeting options are now that tab cycling is gone ... and that involves "dusting off" the old manual sections that describe those targeting mechanisms [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Dolalin]

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6/18/99

If there is anyone out there who is about to purchase Everquest let me warn
you of some things

...

Things are hard to target!

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....k/A8Bn2GwSzSUJ

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....k/A8Bn2GwSzSUJ

Wow! That guy said he had fun up until level 4 lol. EQ wasn't for him!

[Castamere]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah this is another big fall back argument. You have no idea how many, if any, population we will actually lose. For all either of us know they could keep this and also pull out mouse wheel scroll and other things and green will still be wildly popular. If a major population die off happens you can point to these reasons but for the time being we are perfectly stable with WoWC having bled off some numbers (which is not altogether a bad thing).

I agree with Loramin on this though, the biggest factors in P99's population/popularity have been the support and stiff anti-boxing stance and enforcement. Its really a small miracle that this place has existed so long with such relative stability and lack of corruption (note I said relative, not absolute) that tend to bury many other private attempts to do something similar.

We have population, IMO, because people realize they can come here and find other players to chat and group with rather than being outright ignored by a bunch of people running two to six boxes while they masturbate over their insular pixel army.

I've never thought about quitting until this. If I'm alone in this, then I'm glad the majority of the population is happy with the changes and the box will thrive. I still, perhaps selfishly, want to play the game without the change.

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Castamere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've never thought about quitting until this. If I'm alone in this, then I'm glad the majority of the population is happy with the changes and the box will thrive. I still, perhaps selfishly, want to play the game without the change.

There have to be other underlying factors if you really want to quit. This is not that big of a deal man. Not to mention, I would have hoped most players would have expected quality of life changes and changes outside of the project's intended era, Classic thru Velious, would be removed/fixed at some point.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Castamere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've never thought about quitting until this. If I'm alone in this, then I'm glad the majority of the population is happy with the changes and the box will thrive. I still, perhaps selfishly, want to play the game without the change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L842mz-tNBQ