Enchanter is the best solo class

[FungusTrooper]

Can enc + bard duo well at all? How would that work?

[Crede]

Originally Posted by FungusTrooper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can enc + bard duo well at all? How would that work?

It works fine. Bard basically just sits back and dots the mob. Can fear kite with ease too with OP bard snare and enc fear. It’s not the most powerful, but basically any class can duo well with an enc.

[virulentthemonstaire]

i agree with "therealmd" and disagree with "demoraliser".

chanter/sham duo is way stronger than chanter/cleric duo. (assuming the people playing these classes are highly skilled)

chanter/sham is higher risk higher reward. sure, if u have a shitty chanter then chanter/cleric is better. (most chanters are shitty which is why most ppl believe chanter/cleric is superior which is not the case).

for example, chanter/sham can duo the rats in DN and chanter can charm a rogue rat pet to backstab while the shaman facetanks etc. shaman has way more utility than cleric.

again, like i said before, chanter/sham is higher risk / higher reward which is why most ppl don't do it cus u guys are shitlords.


Lunatick Asylum <Rampage> 60th Dark Elf Enchanter *Slayer of PoM trashcans*

[enjchanter]

Originally Posted by virulentthemonstaire [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i agree with "therealmd" and disagree with "demoraliser".

chanter/sham duo is way stronger than chanter/cleric duo. (assuming the people playing these classes are highly skilled)

chanter/sham is higher risk higher reward. sure, if u have a shitty chanter then chanter/cleric is better. (most chanters are shitty which is why most ppl believe chanter/cleric is superior which is not the case).

for example, chanter/sham can duo the rats in DN and chanter can charm a rogue rat pet to backstab while the shaman facetanks etc. shaman has way more utility than cleric.

again, like i said before, chanter/sham is higher risk / higher reward which is why most ppl don't do it cus u guys are shitlords.


Lunatick Asylum <Rampage> 60th Dark Elf Enchanter *Slayer of PoM trashcans*

just let the cleric tank then

[virulentthemonstaire]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just let the cleric tank then

right, so the cleric can run out of mana by healing himself and getting rupted when trying to CH himself. also, a shaman can stack dots on the mob and actually do dps while also healing himself and/or ench pet. not to mention, malo for charm pet. sham has unlimited mana pool, etc. i mean i can go on and on...

the point is, if u like the game to hold ur hand cus ur a shitlord in a 20 year old game...then go ench/cleric. if u have some ounce of skill, then ench/sham is superior hands down.


Lunatick Asylum <Rampage> 60th Dark Elf Enchanter *Slayer of PoM trashcans*

[enjchanter]

why do you need a shaman to babysit you
enchanters are the best soloers didnt you hear

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by virulentthemonstaire [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i agree with "therealmd" and disagree with "demoraliser".

chanter/sham duo is way stronger than chanter/cleric duo. (assuming the people playing these classes are highly skilled and it's at 60 with torpor and gear for a few select camps

chanter/sham is higher risk higher reward. sure, if u have a shitty chanter then chanter/cleric is better. (most chanters are shitty which is why most ppl believe chanter/cleric is superior which is not the case).

for example, chanter/sham can duo the rats in DN and chanter can charm a rogue rat pet to backstab while the shaman facetanks etc. shaman has way more utility than cleric.

again, like i said before, chanter/sham is higher risk / higher reward which is why most ppl don't do it cus u guys are shitlords.


Lunatick Asylum <Rampage> 60th Dark Elf Enchanter *Slayer of PoM trashcans*

Fixed.

You're not even really disagreeing with me. I never said that in some very limited situations (i.e. 60, geared, torpor, both very good players, for a few specific camps, when you're ok with higher risk) a shaman isn't a "stronger" partner for an enchanter. I just said that the enchanter+cleric duo is overall (i.e. considering 1-60, naked through geared, all variety of camps across the expansions) a better duo.

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like someone just called the the reigning champ shitty.

How do we settle this?

Lol. Well, to be fair, I probably have 500x (literally) as much time soloing as I do duoing. And my shaman duo experience was mostly at king back in mid-Kunark. But yeah, he's just trolling or being asinine to act like you need to be a shitty enchanter in order to get killed by your pet or on a pull and that therefore good enchanters don't need cleric hp+ac buffs, superior heals, stuns, and rez even more than they need malo and more dps from the shaman.

[virulentthemonstaire]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fixed.

You're not even really disagreeing with me. I never said that in some very limited situations (i.e. 60, geared, torpor, both very good players, for a few specific camps, when you're ok with higher risk) a shaman isn't a "stronger" partner for an enchanter. I just said that the enchanter+cleric duo is overall (i.e. considering 1-60, naked through geared, all variety of camps across the expansions) a better duo.

I was never responding to you nor acknowledging your post. Get off your high horse, fgt. I was responding to therealmd and demoraliser's initial posts/argument in the first 1 or 2 pages of this thread.


Lunatick Asylum <Rampage> 60th Dark Elf Enchanter *Slayer of PoM trashcans*

[Bardp1999]

I've had NEC/ENC duos in HS that outperformed any possible CLR/ENC duo from the sheer DPS we were able to pump out and just merking pets as they got low. ENC/CLR is clearly the most powerful in non-dead zones and for killing special targets, in dead zones my friend the NEC might have something to say.

Add to this that all the best Kunark zones are Undead (Old Seb Crypt/Howling Stones/KC/CoM/LGuK) and you can make a compelling case for the necro

Benefits of neco with an enchanter
1) Additional Charm pet
2) Can heal the enchanter from break damage
3) Excellent Roots
4) Numb the Dead has no LoS requirement for some interesting pulls
5) Mana for daaaaays
6) Can rez
7) Can DA
8) Can FD
9) Can Mez

The only "broken" part about Enchanters is that their Charms are not limited to Humanoids only as they should be. It's ridiculous they can Charmw whatever TF they want

[Crede]

the real answer is monk. Basically can kill anything that an enc can and safer. This was before triple attack. Now it’s just a joke and they’re way more fun to raid on.