Green 99 Moneymaking musings.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Tenderizer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if thats winning sign me up for the special olympics because im feeling like a winner already.

Theyre like everquest mutual funds.

Though if there is blue green transfers there's a chance current manastone futures will take a dip (I'm just trying to use economics terms idk anything about economics)

[Canelek]

So then we get back to the part where characters get recycled back to blue at the end of the timeline (allegedly). I mean, that was preliminary talk after all, and we are not privy to the inner workings of the P99 team.

If the player base is recycled to blue, they would either be:

- Stripped of all money and items
- Stripped of items only
- Partially stripped (keep no-drop items)
- Left completely intact to further muddy the Blue economic waters
- Non-classic mechanics introduced to disallow those that hoard on Green to be insta- fatcat-tunnelrat on Blue
- Other shit

I think most people would like their characters recycled to blue (not even going to get into the logistics of how that works without understanding how their databases are designed (and on what platform)). And I think most players would rather not have hot items perma-camped by those with way too much time and designer drugs on their hands).

And yeah, I am totally onboard with only allowing a player to be logged in to one server at a time to alleviate pressure on both servers. This is pretty easy to circumvent, of course, but at least it would weed out some of our less-intrepid community members (I'm looking at you, panhandle denizens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]).

As far as Red, well, cool color.

[Jibartik]

It'd make sense if it was only 1 level 60 character, but that'd be kinda a bummer I figure because then you cant like, store a pocket paladin dark elf that you want to level slowly for 10 years on blue after green is over.

It'd make sense if it was 1 character and no inventory, but that'd be a bummer because then you couldn't have a pocket darkelf paladin to level at all.

I could see 1 character, only equipped items, no inventory/bags... but that gets confusing regarding keys and stuff. But if it was 1 character any level, that'd be chill. Id trash my level 60 green main to swap over a darkelf paladin with 2 manastones in each hand to level slowly some decade from now.

I doubt that we'll see more than 1 character per account, names are going to be an issue as it is (if they real smart they use same name database as blue)

Idk yeah this is all speculation but those are some of the things I think we might see

Oh yeah I could also see no transfers too but I think the chance on that are slim.

[Jibartik]

Ohh what if they only let you transfer with everything, but its to red, in some last ditch effort to hope that the green pop decides it'd like PVP and give red a second chance oh no.

[Canelek]

Lol. Yeah EQPVP has its fans, and they are a special bunch, but it was just a toss-in and obviously never a thing aside from the, "yeah, we know we did not really try to implement PVP, but we can afford a few playpens for those that, for whatever reason, like it. Yeah, I dunno, fuck it."

As far as character names go, that may be one of the easier things, as Verant/SOE handled server merger name matches by adding a 'X' to the name of the a character moving to a server that had an existing character of that name. CoolGuy69 became CoolGuy69X and the like, with the option to petition to do a regular name change. That's just a simple query, regardless of database architecture.

Anyways, it's cool to start from the beginning, as I didn't start playing EQ until I scrambled together better PC parts at the beginning of 2000.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Canelek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as character names go, that may be one of the easier things, as Verant/SOE handled server merger name matches by adding a 'X' to the name of the a character moving to a server that had an existing character of that name. CoolGuy69 became CoolGuy69X and the like, with the option to petition to do a regular name change. That's just a simple query, regardless of database architecture.

haha thats true, like that one streamer that has the incredibly positive disposition that was posting here a while back, he had a few videos about his live necro having this x addition to its name and being the only thing that could dent his otherwise totally positive mental attitude armor.

[Jimjam]

Sneakse and her green counterpart could cause bluster.

[Mewse]

I don't think it's very likely they'd move characters from Green to Blue. Even discounting naming issues, you'd be introducing a whole new influx of plat and items that no longer drop to an already bloated economy. Then you'd also have the issue of character slots. I only use one emu account, and typically have all eight slots filled. If I've got characters on blue and green, now I've got to start deleting characters, potentially with NO DROP items I worked hard for, to make room on my one amount in a merge.

This just seems like a silly solution that would cause a massive amount of headaches for an already understaffed project.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Mewse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think it's very likely they'd move characters from Green to Blue. Even discounting naming issues, you'd be introducing a whole new influx of plat and items that no longer drop to an already bloated economy.

I just dont think this is realistic to be fair.

The last 10 years, of rising and falling RMT, exploiting, cheating, hacking and ban waves that has happened has proven, you cannot "break blues economy"

So I find these concerns to be unrealistic, I'm sorry but this server has seen worse than its greatest fans farming on one server for 3 years and then transferring it back to blue. I just don't see this as being a realistic issue when you break it down.

Im only speaking from just the just raw effects of it, not my personal wants. I just dont see it causing a ripple beyond increasing the number of players buying and selling, which is always a boon for an economy.

[Canelek]

One possible (but not elegant) solution is to force players to create a new account for Green. That way, if characters do get rolled to blue, it would be a matter of changing the server designation of each character on that account.

I think name changes are super-trivial, but items/plat will be the biggest challenge.

However it pans out, I'm sure they have it mapped out to some degree. I mean, they did manage to resurrect a pretty fucking close Everquest after all, no? And, they are smart enough to work on their own timeline and ignore the chatter, for the most part.