P99 Sky Agreement - why its bad for the server

[Jokesteve]

Originally Posted by Rainik Stormseeker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could always just ask if you could join their raid(s)?

Atmas response to this pretty much nailed why this is not a valid solution for anyone that is not within the player made agreement that wants to raid with their guild in sky.

[Holyhawk]

Originally Posted by Jokesteve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Atmas response to this pretty much nailed why this is not a valid solution for anyone that is not within the player made agreement that wants to raid with their guild in sky.

No, actually it didn't.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Jokesteve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Atmas response to this pretty much nailed why this is not a valid solution for anyone that is not within the player made agreement that wants to raid with their guild in sky.

Which guilds are those? Beyond Rivervale Vanguard.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which guilds are those? Beyond Rivervale Vanguard.

I still anxiously await an answer to this one, as it seems sort of central to the entire thread (or at least to OP's original goal for it).

[MagpieRockyl]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which guilds are those? Beyond Rivervale Vanguard.

Rivervalr Vanguard kicks any member who goes to sky during summer time in 2018 no questions asked. Policy under review for the winter season

[Zutizutzut]

If the Untz group was really going up to get epic pieces for their toons, I find the whole situation sad.

The members from Awakened used to have a Sky slot. The schedule was modified to replace them by Rustle without any discussion with the Awakened officers. Even though Awakened very rarely had been going to Sky, this offense was dramatically worse.

If Awakened still had their slot, the members of this trip to Sky would likely have had the pieces they sought long ago.

[Rang]

Originally Posted by MagpieRockyl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rivervalr Vanguard kicks any member who goes to sky during summer time in 2018 no questions asked. Policy under review for the winter season

Plane of sky summer raiders:

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[Lojik]

Why it's bad for the server or why it's bad for you?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why it's bad for the server or why it's bad for you?

When he says it is 'bad for the server', he has clarified that to mean 'bad for the guilds who are capable and willing to do Sky, don't have an existing PM slot and aren't able to do AM'.

At the moment no one has mentioned any guild names, so basically the point is hypothetical people's experience is more important than actual players.

Perhaps he is saying how much more popular the server would be, and how many more guilds there would be if it wasn't for the sky rotation.

That is the logical conclusion I can pull out of this.

[sereal]

Couldn't we just have a process in place that every X period of time we do a /random and pick a new rotation so new guilds or guilds without a slot can have a chance at getting one?

Alternatively have a rule that any forks in a guild without a slot MUST be allowed to attend any sky raid and roll?

Seems like the core problem is that if you don't have a sky slot there isn't a obvious process to get one. Just because you're a farm crew doesn't mean you don't deserve a equal opportunity.