Ranger vs Warrior Archer

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by 7thGate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ranger DPS with bows and high quality arrows is actually not bad. ALS has been having our rangers shoot from outside AOE range on a number of different targets. We did a parse once on the bee queen in sky, and the two rangers did 5075 and 4281 damage respectively in, IIRC, 55 seconds with trueshot active (60 and 56 rangers, Exquisite Velium/Windstriker and 5 damage arrows, respectively). That was 2nd and 3rd on the raid, behind a 60 rogue at 5975. We also had the 56 ranger parse against Vindi once, and did about 3500 damage/minute.

The important part about it is that arrows can't eat enrage if the mob death touches and flips on the DPS, they can't be disrupted with dragon fear, they can't be slowed or stunned by breath weapon attacks. Its just 80-90% of rogue DPS for 2 minutes completely unimpeded by whatever a mob's abilities to mess with the raid are, and that can be very strong, especially against old world mobs that rely on AOE damage/debilitation effects to stop the raid from just straight up murdering their small HP pools.

love u guys

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

love u guys

Thanks Skar =) Our bee fight trueshot ranger line is indeed glorious.

[Jimjam]

Your mention of sky has reminded me; bows are also a great way to avoid PBAoE dispels! Also, when kiting casters, during the time they stand still to cast their spells you will get the stationary bonus as a 51 ranger.

[kotton05]

A warriors bow is better, higher skill

[skarlorn]

Ranger gonna be easier warrior way cooler and useful in the end.

[Arkanjil]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don’t see the argument how rangers are the best at archery. Warriors have a higher attack potential, crippling shots (3x), and can use the very best bow. Sure rangers get true shot, but warriors get precision. I’d put my money on a crippling precision warrior throwing shots over any ranger disc. Crippling blows aren’t just a replacement for critical hits. They also happen far more often.

Plus Ogre....

[oqrelord]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don’t see the argument how rangers are the best at archery. Warriors have a higher attack potential, crippling shots (3x), and can use the very best bow. Sure rangers get true shot, but warriors get precision. I’d put my money on a crippling precision warrior throwing shots over any ranger disc. Crippling blows aren’t just a replacement for critical hits. They also happen far more often.

So im still in the process of crafting this character. It could still go war or ranger at this point...

Ive played neither to high level... what about ranger being able to gain double dmg on stationary targets? Do you guys think that would edge out warriors?

3x dmg crippling war
4x dmg crit stationary ranger

Am I missing something?

[paulgiamatti]

Double damage doesn't require a stationary target, or at least if it's supposed to then it doesn't on P99. In fact, it's the opposite - stationary targets mitigate 50% bow damage, which I'm sure is true for any class. I'd say double damage is about a 50% proc rate, and yeah because of this a ranger is going to destroy a warrior in bow DPS.