This just in Detoxx and Henrique makeup!

[Skew]

Originally Posted by RedXIII [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We (Awakened) did not train anyone.

Aftermeth created a train(from NTOV), brought to a safe spot (picture room, if you factioned, there is ZERO KOS mobs there, you can walk from entrance, to WToV exit without any issues if factioned) and our monk, he got hit by a AoE, and his FD broke. And once Aftermeth guy who had agro died/gated/FD'ed, mobs saw him while FD, was already broken by someone who trained him AE'ing mobs, just sleeping in there and chew his ass in seconds. He moved the train like 2 inches, but still got blamed for training. lol

Here is a quote from Sirken, on p99 raid rules: (https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=189856).

"Q11: What about training away trash mobs?
A: This is acceptable, but if you choose to use this tactic, you must keep in mind that you are responsible for your trains/mobs. Meaning if your trainer dies or zones, and the mobs go wipe another guild, that’s still training. When the time comes to purposely drop the train, make sure to communicate and coordinate with any other guilds in the zone. This means actually communicate so that both parties have a fair amount of time to work out a safe place, or a safe time to drop the train. Please try not to run your trains within aggro range of another guild or raid party." - Sirken.

So, these mobs were trained down. Because some Awakened monk had agro when trying to avoid it (he was FD'ed) that it chained down to somewhere, still dont make him the one to blame. Those mobs were KOS mobs, from NTOV, what the fuck were they doing at picture room? Someone brought that train down, and that person should be responsible for it, not some random who was unware walking in a safe place (he is factioned).

(if Aftermeth wanna post the "train video" it here for people to watch, go for it)

With that said, nothing will change. GM's cannot make a competitive enviroment for us to raid. End of the day, sadly rotation is the boring way of dealing with these type of things.

We now watching the end of Classic Everquest, once again... Welcome to boring ass instanced/rotated content for everyone because people fail to play fair with rules. We about to end everything Nilbog and Rogean fight for... lets rotate shit because we fail to make a competitive enviorement.

Super easy to abuse that "fd but aoe broke non-kos players fd" rule.
Keep enjoying your 20 days which are going to lock you out for months at a time next year because yall sick in the head. When you get fed up ask those two melts who run your guild why it has to be so.

[RedXIII]

Originally Posted by Skew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Super easy to abuse that "fd but aoe broke non-kos players fd" rule.
Keep enjoying your 20 days which are going to lock you out for months at a time next year because yall sick in the head. When you get fed up ask those two melts who run your guild why it has to be so.

abuse?! KoS mobs at picture room dude. A safe area for non KoS people.

Also, remember that last suspension Awakened had were stuff was brought down by Kluwen and Harbogast zoned in ToV and it agro him and that caused a train at entrance?

1)Train gets chained down by Kluwen, he dies with KoS mobs in LoS to ToV door, chains down to Harbogast. Result: Awakened suspended.
2)Train gets droped on top of Awakened monk, he gets AE'd, ppl claim he chained agro down to some Aftermeth (even thou fraps doesnt show it). Result: Awakened suspended.

Consistency and clear calls. Cant even blame the GMs on that one because piece of shit Detoxx petitions anything and everything hoping something sticks. And then you ask why my guildleaders dont wanna make agreements or deals with this guy?!

Getsome got tired of TMO lawyer quest bullshit. Hokushin pick up the torch and gets tired of it and quits... Next is Breaken/Eratani to quit. Dealing with a sychopat like Detoxx is impossible, and Aftermeth officers follow his lead, the koolaid is strong. Sooner or later he "wins" because crywolf is not enforced. And ppl get tired of the bullshit and quit.

I am unbiased, when my guild fucks up i call them out. I am not here to win by cheating. I like a fair competition and sadly Detoxx, Nalken, Aikons and lately Slaysh are unable to not cheat.

Obv this is RnF and ppl will keep spinning, i just hope someday Rogean and Nilbog will make clear rules and enforce them, until that time we know how Detoxx works: Try compete fair, gets rekt, try cheat, still gets rekt, petition his ass out trying to burn us out.

Think about it, if you ever dealt with Detoxx you know its true. He makes Umbrella feels like a nice guy.

[Skew]

Originally Posted by RedXIII [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

abuse?! KoS mobs at picture room dude. A safe area for non KoS people.

Also, remember that last suspension Awakened had were stuff was brought down by Kluwen and Harbogast zoned in ToV and it agro him and that caused a train at entrance?

1)Train gets chained down by Kluwen, he dies with KoS mobs in LoS to ToV door, chains down to Harbogast. Result: Awakened suspended.
2)Train gets droped on top of Awakened monk, he gets AE'd, ppl claim he chained agro down to some Aftermeth (even thou fraps doesnt show it). Result: Awakened suspended.

Consistency and clear calls. Cant even blame the GMs on that one because piece of shit Detoxx petitions anything and everything hoping something sticks. And then you ask why my guildleaders dont wanna make agreements or deals with this guy?!

Getsome got tired of TMO lawyer quest bullshit. Hokushin pick up the torch and gets tired of it and quits... Next is Breaken/Eratani to quit. Dealing with a sychopat like Detoxx is impossible, and Aftermeth officers follow his lead, the koolaid is strong. Sooner or later he "wins" because crywolf is not enforced. And ppl get tired of the bullshit and quit.

I am unbiased, when my guild fucks up i call them out. I am not here to win by cheating. I like a fair competition and sadly Detoxx, Nalken, Aikons and lately Slaysh are unable to not cheat.

Obv this is RnF and ppl will keep spinning, i just hope someday Rogean and Nilbog will make clear rules and enforce them, until that time we know how Detoxx works: Try compete fair, gets rekt, try cheat, still gets rekt, petition his ass out trying to burn us out.

Think about it, if you ever dealt with Detoxx you know its true. He makes Umbrella feels like a nice guy.

Im a warm body with zero tracking the last month. Its way easier for me to raid in current ruleset than be in CSG and spend 72 hours crawling ToV. So its in my interests to not have the only 2 real raid capable guilds banned.

Your leaders have been given a myriad of options for a rotation and means to reduce petition. Detoxx is a small part of this process - it strikes me you dont know how Am operate if you think Detoxx is some sort of dictator : his active officers run the guild and the last offer made to Awk was to ROTATE MOBS OVER XMAS/NEW YEARS so BOTH guilds could spend time with F+F.
Now why would Eratani and Breakn decline such a sensible approach? Do they have no family or friends or did their active DKP raiders tell them not to accept a rotation over the holiday season ? (by extension suggesting your active DKP raiders have no friends or family)

[RedXIII]

Originally Posted by Skew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im a warm body with zero tracking the last month. Its way easier for me to raid in current ruleset than be in CSG and spend 72 hours crawling ToV. So its in my interests to not have the only 2 real raid capable guilds banned.

Your leaders have been given a myriad of options for a rotation and means to reduce petition. Detoxx is a small part of this process - it strikes me you dont know how Am operate if you think Detoxx is some sort of dictator : his active officers run the guild and the last offer made to Awk was to ROTATE MOBS OVER XMAS/NEW YEARS so BOTH guilds could spend time with F+F.
Now why would Eratani and Breakn decline such a sensible approach? Do they have no family or friends or did their active DKP raiders tell them not to accept a rotation over the holiday season ? (by extension suggesting your active DKP raiders have no friends or family)

we dont like rotations. Not the majority of us. Is that a crime? How about not compete these two weeks if u guys rather go do stuff with family? Velious is here forever... Post on guild thread that u guys taking a vacation and no harm done. Doubt ppl would brag about uncontested pixels.

I did not vote because i am with my girls family right now, so i cannot play for the next 9 days. So i will not put weight in something that i will not participate. But there is people who will be online and would like to kill stuff... Should they not be allowed?

People live and play the game in different ways. Respect that and let the majority decides, when what they decide is not good for you/your guild, adjust. Dont try and make ppl look like assholes just because they disagree with you.

Play the game the way you want. Rotating stuff shouldnt be a fix to petition. Some ppl like to compete. Crazy right? Shrugs, thats their fun... Let them have it while they are still the majority.

Have fun with your family Skew, in the end thats what matters.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by RedXIII [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

abuse?! KoS mobs at picture room dude. A safe area for non KoS people.

Also, remember that last suspension Awakened had were stuff was brought down by Kluwen and Harbogast zoned in ToV and it agro him and that caused a train at entrance?

1)Train gets chained down by Kluwen, he dies with KoS mobs in LoS to ToV door, chains down to Harbogast. Result: Awakened suspended.
2)Train gets droped on top of Awakened monk, he gets AE'd, ppl claim he chained agro down to some Aftermeth (even thou fraps doesnt show it). Result: Awakened suspended.

Consistency and clear calls. Cant even blame the GMs on that one because piece of shit Detoxx petitions anything and everything hoping something sticks. And then you ask why my guildleaders dont wanna make agreements or deals with this guy?!

Getsome got tired of TMO lawyer quest bullshit. Hokushin pick up the torch and gets tired of it and quits... Next is Breaken/Eratani to quit. Dealing with a sychopat like Detoxx is impossible, and Aftermeth officers follow his lead, the koolaid is strong. Sooner or later he "wins" because crywolf is not enforced. And ppl get tired of the bullshit and quit.

I am unbiased, when my guild fucks up i call them out. I am not here to win by cheating. I like a fair competition and sadly Detoxx, Nalken, Aikons and lately Slaysh are unable to not cheat.

Obv this is RnF and ppl will keep spinning, i just hope someday Rogean and Nilbog will make clear rules and enforce them, until that time we know how Detoxx works: Try compete fair, gets rekt, try cheat, still gets rekt, petition his ass out trying to burn us out.

Think about it, if you ever dealt with Detoxx you know its true. He makes Umbrella feels like a nice guy.

I think you forgot to recruit for lawyerquest. You'll always lose the "argument" without a nihilist on your side.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Kluwen1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Henrique I'm not sure if you actually saw the fraps or if your leadership was spinning actual events again to make you guys look like the good guys. I don't doubt what your saying about Harbo accidently training the zone in but accidental or not you guys should of conceded. You brought it into camp, you actively kept it by zone in stairs and if anyone is responsible for the train it's Ceebus and primarily Diamondfist. Either you've been fed false information or you're just completely helpless.

https://youtu.be/A0gv-3C94hM

sweet 15 second clip

[Mockba1980]

Henrique so mad... as usual.

Even your own officier has to ask you to STFU in tov cause you are too toxic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fasttimes]

We din do nuffins

[skarlorn]

you can't prove NOFFIN - sneaksy, the original raid trainer

[RedXIII]

Not rage at all. I am just poiting out FACTS, i will never spin things in my favor. I am here to play fair by the rules, this is why you guys will never have a fraps that will show me doing anything ilegal, EVER, because there is no fun in winning like you piece of shits do to "win"!

My guild on this specific suspension is not guilty. There is nothing wrong about what you guys show on the video at all. YOUR guild brought the train from NTOV to Picture room (SAFE SPOT).

On that Hyjal thing you mention, my GUILD is also not guilty. Hyjal went full retarded, do you truly belive some officer or Breaken told him to do it? rofl... you seriously got some tinfoiling skills.

Btw, i am not even trying to defend or anything. Just showing this is the reason that a agreement between guilds is never possible in p99. Simply because people fail to just say "Damn, we fucked up". People usually take the path that you are doing right now Detoxx, spin it in your favor, or be like Kluwen, saying that "Everyone secondary's pullers, Kelz do it all the time". When we all know this is not a thing. If kelz do it i hope he gets punished for it, because thats not something you should do at all. Its NOT your FTE, its NOT your pull. Stay the fuck out of the way. Dont train Wyverns you piece of shit monks. (Got it? now i am rage'ing)

I feel sorry for p99 because as i said before the 20 days, its just plain retarded to suspend 300-400 people from playing the game at all. There is a couple of people that only plays P99, and they had plans to play, raid and etc. And i feel bad for those people.

For me, that i know you are very worried, i will keep grinding my Jedi skills in SWGemu:Basilisk. Ill post a picture for you sometime.

Happy holidays everyone. To Detoxx, you can #getfukd.

With love,

Henrique.