10/10 in my lap

[skarlorn]

I haven't had a 10/10 in my lap this week so I'd like to call Lulz a fucking bitch lying fucker

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thats a transgender. if u on that real gay steez ur just born in the wrong body



bang bang yea clap gang in the place

I'd like to hear more from people that can relate better tbh. I am not gay.

I only had one gay friend comfortable enough to discuss sexuality with me and all he told me was ever since he could remember, he was gay. This was ages ago and I was too young to go much deeper than that on the topic, and lost that friend over time so really never had an opportunity to go further into it.

[Lulz~Sect]

That’s the #elfpal nudes broad

(sorry u mad)

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd like to hear more from people that can relate better tbh. I am not gay.

I only had one gay friend comfortable enough to discuss sexuality with me and all he told me was ever since he could remember, he was gay. This was ages ago and I was too young to go much deeper than that on the topic, and lost that friend over time so really never had an opportunity to go further into it.

We got lots of experts around here

One of them should be able to enlighten you

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We got lots of experts around here

One of them should be able to enlighten you

I will just have to take Azzar's explanation as the gospel.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will just have to take Azzar's explanation as the gospel.

a wise choice. many powerful elves learn from this particular druid.

[d3r14k]

Originally Posted by mtb tripper the 2nd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our entire evolutionary purpose is to propagate our species. The moment homosexuality or transsexualism became some kind of social fixation was a huge misstep.

I agree with almost everything you said, but to play devil's advocate here...

How relevant is the above quoted text today? This taken from a Williams Institute report estimate (which is a few years old, and admittedly only taken in the U.S. rather than a global estimate):

"It is estimated that 3.8 percent of Americans identified as gay/lesbian, bisexual, or transgender: 1.7 percent as lesbian or gay, 1.8 percent as bisexual, and 0.3 percent as transgender."

Even if this number has risen in the last few years since the study / report, this is less than 10% of the U.S. population. With population growth in the country and the world expanding so rapidly to the point of creating a bubble, is it really so detrimental if 10% of the population aren't reproducing? If anything, I view this as a good thing.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by mtb tripper the 2nd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the nature in which I present my ideas may often come off as quite bigoted/xenophobic/sexist. I have no problem whatsoever with humans doing as they choose to their bodies. Whether that be drugs, sex change, suicide, etc. I care even less when humans choose to fornicate or live romantically with the same sex.

What I most certainly DO care about is when people try to use science as a scapegoat for their own bullshit choices. For someone to declare that they were "born this way" when they were clearly born with either an XY or XX chromosome is an insult to science. To see some man claim he is a woman while his testicles flail about is an insult to science.

Regarding sexuality. From the minute a man's testicles drop and he has his first wet dream, his seed is destined to fertilize an egg. It doesn't matter if this man wastes his seed upon another man's anus. Why should it matter? It doesn't. What DOES matter is if the man claims he was born gay.

One may argue that homosexuality is evolution's way of population control. I disagree. Humans have been using the same sex to achieve orgasm since the beginning of mankind. Those same humans who participated in bisexuality still lived on to reproduce. One could certainly argue the point that all humans are innately bisexual, but the entire concept of sexuality doesn't really matter.

Our entire evolutionary purpose is to propagate our species. The moment homosexuality or transsexualism became some kind of social fixation was a huge misstep.

I see your perspective and appreciate you elaborating on it. I still have some questions though.

Regarding science, I don't feel it's insulting to science when a man says "I was born gay." You have to admit, that even science has not fully solved all the mysteries of this life and outside of it, or at least I should say MAN has not unraveled all the mysteries with science.

For instance, sure, all the reasons you explain as to why it's not possible for a man or woman to say "I was born gay" makes sense if you only take the physical evidence that we as humans so far understand about the male and female bodies.

What we as people do not fully know or understand is what is in the brain regarding thought processes and other even more complicated facets to the body that we know nothing about at all.

You can't say we have fully figured out the human body, and thus it's impossible to say a man or woman cannot be born gay, when in fact we do NOT fully understand everything about the human bodies particularly the brain which ultimately controls our behavior.

How can we say a gay man or woman are not born that way when in fact their brains dictate what instinctual behaviors they have? I mean they were born with their brains structured the way they are, right? I don't understand how you can say that.

Yes, they have working parts, a penis, balls that drop and seed that shoots but this doesn't prove a man is not born gay when there are more facets to human physiology than just the reproductive system. This only proves that physically they were born as a man this has nothing to do with their psychological makeup.

I realize there are some men or women that "choose" to be gay, and the only examples I can think of are porn stars that do "gay for pay" and/or individuals that choose to do so for other reasons but typically this behavior is short lived, spur of the moment, or done for some highly calculated reason.

When my friend told me he was born gay, I did not question it. When he told me that since he could remember he was gay, it was a natural feeling for him even though it was awkward for him because he understood it was not "normal" according to the narrative life presented him with in his household by his family and it wasn't until he was a full adult he was able to accept the fact that he was indeed gay and there was nothing he could do to change that. This is not making a choice to be gay, as a small child he didn't think to himself "I want to be gay!" He never even understood such a thought at that point in his life...

I just think we have barely touched the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what we understand about the human body, especially the brain. I also view much of how the brain works as a mystery to scientists thus rendering us extremely ignorant on things such as why we have always had homosexuals, bisexuals, transgenders etc. I can't view it as an insult to science when someone says they were born gay, I just can't.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by mtb tripper the 2nd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the nature in which I present my ideas may often come off as quite bigoted/xenophobic/sexist. I have no problem whatsoever with humans doing as they choose to their bodies. Whether that be drugs, sex change, suicide, etc. I care even less when humans choose to fornicate or live romantically with the same sex.

What I most certainly DO care about is when people try to use science as a scapegoat for their own bullshit choices. For someone to declare that they were "born this way" when they were clearly born with either an XY or XX chromosome is an insult to science. To see some man claim he is a woman while his testicles flail about is an insult to science.

Regarding sexuality. From the minute a man's testicles drop and he has his first wet dream, his seed is destined to fertilize an egg. It doesn't matter if this man wastes his seed upon another man's anus. Why should it matter? It doesn't. What DOES matter is if the man claims he was born gay.

One may argue that homosexuality is evolution's way of population control. I disagree. Humans have been using the same sex to achieve orgasm since the beginning of mankind. Those same humans who participated in bisexuality still lived on to reproduce. One could certainly argue the point that all humans are innately bisexual, but the entire concept of sexuality doesn't really matter.

Our entire evolutionary purpose is to propagate our species. The moment homosexuality or transsexualism became some kind of social fixation was a huge misstep.

so you are sexually attracted to men or man parts, but because you do not engage in sexual acts with other men, you're not gay? is that the argument? you're still gay (or bisexual) if that's the case.

Originally Posted by d3r14k [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with almost everything you said, but to play devil's advocate here...

How relevant is the above quoted text today? This taken from a Williams Institute report estimate (which is a few years old, and admittedly only taken in the U.S. rather than a global estimate):

"It is estimated that 3.8 percent of Americans identified as gay/lesbian, bisexual, or transgender: 1.7 percent as lesbian or gay, 1.8 percent as bisexual, and 0.3 percent as transgender."

Even if this number has risen in the last few years since the study / report, this is less than 10% of the U.S. population. With population growth in the country and the world expanding so rapidly to the point of creating a bubble, is it really so detrimental if 10% of the population aren't reproducing? If anything, I view this as a good thing.

freeloaders on man's evolutionary path, hoarding their genetic diversity to theyselfs ;n; truly reprehensible...

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see your perspective and appreciate you elaborating on it. I still have some questions though.

Regarding science, I don't feel it's insulting to science when a man says "I was born gay." You have to admit, that even science has not fully solved all the mysteries of this life and outside of it, or at least I should say MAN has not unraveled all the mysteries with science.

For instance, sure, all the reasons you explain as to why it's not possible for a man or woman to say "I was born gay" makes sense if you only take the physical evidence that we as humans so far understand about the male and female bodies.

What we as people do not fully know or understand is what is in the brain regarding thought processes and other even more complicated facets to the body that we know nothing about at all.

You can't say we have fully figured out the human body, and thus it's impossible to say a man or woman cannot be born gay, when in fact we do NOT fully understand everything about the human bodies particularly the brain which ultimately controls our behavior.

How can we say a gay man or woman are not born that way when in fact their brains dictate what instinctual behaviors they have? I mean they were born with their brains structured the way they are, right? I don't understand how you can say that.

Yes, they have working parts, a penis, balls that drop and seed that shoots but this doesn't prove a man is not born gay when there are more facets to human physiology than just the reproductive system. This only proves that physically they were born as a man this has nothing to do with their psychological makeup.

I realize there are some men or women that "choose" to be gay, and the only examples I can think of are porn stars that do "gay for pay" and/or individuals that choose to do so for other reasons but typically this behavior is short lived, spur of the moment, or done for some highly calculated reason.

When my friend told me he was born gay, I did not question it. When he told me that since he could remember he was gay, it was a natural feeling for him even though it was awkward for him because he understood it was not "normal" according to the narrative life presented him with in his household by his family and it wasn't until he was a full adult he was able to accept the fact that he was indeed gay and there was nothing he could do to change that. This is not making a choice to be gay, as a small child he didn't think to himself "I want to be gay!" He never even understood such a thought at that point in his life...

I just think we have barely touched the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what we understand about the human body, especially the brain. I also view much of how the brain works as a mystery to scientists thus rendering us extremely ignorant on things such as why we have always had homosexuals, bisexuals, transgenders etc. I can't view it as an insult to science when someone says they were born gay, I just can't.

your argument is god-of-the-gaps, but for science. very pious!