WTB Fungi tunic

[Daldolma]

Manastone is the best item in EverQuest for three different classes (wiz, druid, cleric) through Velious. There is never a replacement or substitute. No matter how many more people join this server, the number of manastones will never increase.

It is a borderline priceless item. It'll cost 150-200k in a year.

[Chippy]

[QUOTE=guineapig;228571]Explain to me how this leads a wizard to have an endless manapool? I fail to see the correlation, especially after I did the math.
Are you referring to raids? Because that leaves you with 2 situations, naggy and vox. Neither of which require too much effort to kill even before Kunark.

Staff of the Four 800 dmg rune + Manastone. about 14 clicks of the manastone per port without delving into your HP. I guess you just never saw it on your server.

[Bakaris]

Originally Posted by Chippy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Staff of the Four 800 dmg rune + Manastone. about 14 clicks of the manastone per port without delving into your HP. I guess you just never saw it on your server.

60hp for 20mana. As you said, thats 280mana per rune. Rune takes 15sec to cast - and lets say 5 sec to stone down the rune. So 20secs for 280mana. And how much mana does a wizard have at 60? 3500-4000 ? (I dont know) - so thats 13-15 times 20. So around 4-6min for full mana from 0. Then count in zoning too.

I am sure its faster - but I mean, how much faster ? Its not that ground breaking.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Chippy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Staff of the Four 800 dmg rune + Manastone. about 14 clicks of the manastone per port without delving into your HP. I guess you just never saw it on your server.

It's definitely a great farming tool with the wizard epic - i plan on using that very combo. But it's not "the best item" or "the best combo" in the game.

Think of it this way:

150 mana to gate to any classic location
Zone time = 5-20 seconds

Cast epic (15 second cast time)
Stone down the rune (~5-10 seconds) = 280 mana
x 10 = 2800 mana in roughly 200-250 seconds

Gate back - 70 mana
Zone time = 5-20 seconds

So, we're looking at roughly 4-5 minutes for a full mana bar. Very cool for places you can safely bind or are close to port locations for farming/etc. But it's limited to instances where porting out and coming back is viable - and that's limited in terms of group or raid experiences.

Admittedly, awesome for old-world junk where you don't even need to port out...


I still think Fungi tunic on a shaman is better.


Edit: Yeah I lowballed the max mana an epiced wizard should have - probably takes more time than that, but still better than 8-10 minute med times

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Bakaris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

60hp for 20mana. As you said, thats 280mana per rune. Rune takes 15sec to cast - and lets say 5 sec to stone down the rune. So 20secs for 280mana. And how much mana does a wizard have at 60? 3500-4000 ? (I dont know) - so thats 13-15 times 20. So around 4-6min for full mana from 0. Then count in zoning too.

I am sure its faster - but I mean, how much faster ? Its not that ground breaking.

Thanks for doing the math for me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty much what he said. Yeah it's all great in theory but when you get down to actual numbers you can save yourself tens of thousands of platinum and just meditate for a couple minutes and grab a snack.

How many wizards do you even expect to have their epics before Velious? You are talking about maybe a handful of people in top tier guilds that will have a chance at this and that won't even start happening till 8 months after Kunark launches. So for the vast majority of wizards on this server your staff/manastone combo is a moot point.

[Seaweedpimp]

They just fixed rune on p99!

OMG OMG OMG

IVE BEN LIVING IN A CAVE WHEN DID THEY FIX THIS?

[Seaweedpimp]

You guys are missing the point. And im not going to pound 100k into your heads.

So, laugh at the kids with manastones, thinking we wasted our money. Go ahead.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for doing the math for me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty much what he said. Yeah it's all great in theory but when you get down to actual numbers you can save yourself tens of thousands of platinum and just meditate for a couple minutes and grab a snack.

How many wizards do you even expect to have their epics before Velious? You are talking about maybe a handful of people in top tier guilds that will have a chance at this and that won't even start happening till 8 months after Kunark launches. So for the vast majority of wizards on this server your staff/manastone combo is a moot point.

I dunno, the wizard epic is fairly easy overall. I'd expect quite a few wizard epics to be present at Velious launch. But I agree with you on the whole - Wizard Epic + Manastone is great, but not necessarily what it's made to be.

That aside, I agree that manastones will be really expensive in the future...

[Supreme]

I have 7 manastones.

They will only go up in price.

[Omnimorph]

Manastones won't ever come down in price en masse. You might luck out and pick up one for 60kish when you have returning players for kunark, but after that they'll steadily go up again. I mean i bought my first one for 30k, then my second for 50k. Then i was offered 80k for one.

So i consider it an investment. If the server is never going beyond velious, then old world zones will always be decent levelling places, so manastones will always have a use.