The role of a ranger

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Fasttimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

couldnt find where i bfg'd with you but i can list couple as reference

/GU Derakor the Vindicator in 132s, 175k @1326dps --- A Drakkel Dire Wolf 20k @161dps --- Knapsack 16k @121dps --- Ripqozko 15k @118dps --- Idrinkk 13k @109dps --- Rikyr 12k @92dps --- Trazzle 12k @89dps --- Gatitos 11k @87dps --- Logaluger 11k @85dps --- Jenssen 10k @78dps --- Torstein 10k @75dps

/GU Derakor the Vindicator in 163s, 167k @1026dps --- Knapsack 17k @107dps --- Skew 17k @102dps --- Ripqozko 16k @99dps --- Jenssen 14k @87dps --- A Drakkel Dire Wolf 14k @105dps --- Orna 14k @86dps --- Merkk 12k @78dps --- Trazzle 11k @68dps --- Flippie 10k @64dps --- Morgant 9k @55dps

i mean its like bad rogue dps, thats not horrible considering our utility. im just saying rangers do better then people give them credit for.

My point in this thread has always been that rangers aren't bad at all considering their utility. Its an extremely fun and useful class. Played well it's one of those classes that can make a bad group good and a good group great.

There are some who just like to trump up the positives to the point of making it sound like rangers strut around Norrath in some sort of demi-god status, and that's just not the case. That's the price hybrids pay for utility.

[Snaggles]

Hybrids offer control in lieu of superior performance. An active and intelligent player is able to make up for a group who has a few less skilled/geared players or save the day when it hits the fan.

Pure DPS, healing, tanking and control is ideal. It’s the fantasy football dream team. Throw in non-crappy people behind those classes and this game gets trivially simple. Reality though is that dreams don’t always happen.

In a raid scenario pallies, sk’s, rangers, bards, and even druids have select roles. A few buffs and some alternative tasks. In grind groups they *can* again with the right pilots change how a fight ends up.

I had a pretty well-geared rogue on live (full Skyshrine, Ragebrinfer and Vyemm Fang). Dps was impressive but by myself I was frail. If the healer dropped I was dead. If the warrior couldn’t hold aggro my dps tanked. I retired that toon for a SK and never looked back. Kinda hurt the guild but I found ways to fill in. Pulled Vindi once or twice. With the Ranger I’m enjoying SOW, track and the variety of spells with a modicum of solo ability.

The game is about fun. If you think a class is fun that’s the goal, right?

[Meguvin]

kk

[Fasttimes]

i mean if paying 3dps off rogue is a heavy price, im fine with that

[Cwall 146.0]

every single pure melee does more damage

therefore, there is no reason to bring a ranger to a raid other than a single ranger for call of the predator, call of earth, and strength of nature

[Cecily]

Weapon shield is pretty good too. Just saying. I don't care if I'm parsing particularly high on my ranger honestly. I only burn TS on low risk sure kills.

[Fasttimes]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Weapon shield is pretty good too. Just saying. I don't care if I'm parsing particularly high on my ranger honestly. I only burn TS on low risk sure kills.

Sorry WS is down. True shot is up tho

[Freakish]

Not prepared for raids, voting no.

[mickmoranis]

snare mobs

[fastboy21]

The old (original) model they used for creating the hybrid classes was to make them weaker versions of each part of the combo. Until hybrids got some unique abilities added to them they were very limited roles on the classic raid scene.

IMO, in class, the only three places a ranger can really shine are 1) they can kick ass in some group situations (especially in groups that aren't ideal): they are good dps, harmony for outdoor pulling, tanking/aggro and root cc. 2) on raids they get weaponshield disc. 3) they can track.

if you are a "min/maxer" ranger prob isn't for you in classic. If you want pure DPS role something else.