Server History Lesson?

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that is kinda a big lie . let me set this straigh for you.

By the time tmo broke , the oldest former active members of the guild was me on vonhammer , and portsche.

When i moved to rampage , i was fairly impressed that in loot decissions it was way more less political shit wich was tmo loot council . the proof , i got serverwide paladdius axe of slaugther over a warrior core member wanted it . and another ex tmo got a sod over a longer time player of rampage .

In tmo meanwhile i had to endure a block on items mostly because my class choice over other people wich had alot of friendship with officers.

i dont want to turn this into rnf so i will not drop some screenshots of ECcehomo rage tells when he found we killed pd , and i won the robe as paladin.
or some officers giving loot to newcome friends from live because they used to have the tmo tag .

Because this isn't RNF I won't troll at all.

From what I can tell no guild on this server is devoid of loot corruption. But I don't know what it was like to be in Rampage at the time because I wasn't in it. I was however, raiding against them once the Forsaken/Asgard alliance started.

It was quite obvious some of the core members had nearly complete BiS (even some that didn't track). Meanwhile, all those that joined in Velious (when I started playing in a Casual Guild) were dicked, even those that tracked. Like those that left, tracked a bunch and won mobs against Forsaken/Asgard, and then didn't get their sleeper robe.

So my assessment was -- I think fairly -- the core got theirs and they didn't owe anyone jack (because they did the vast amount of the work) so they left.

What isn't talked a lot about is how Hoku basically had a melt down once we started contesting him and was negotiating rules with Detoxx (mediated by Sirkin.)

He basically already won the big race and didn't want to sit there 6 mo later fighting for it. So his guild died. But that's what happend. It's not like everyone had a big guild discussion and they all quit while uncontested.

From the perspective of people like me however, we were just getting started in Velious (having not farmed the previous expansion for 2 years -- which still sounds terrible to me). Rampage seemed to fall apart the minute they weren't getting all the best stuff 100% uncontested. They were clearly skilled but their guild model was a dated Kunark model that didn't hold up in Velious.

Edit: Let's face it...It was just timing. They could have easily never stood a chance if it weren't for the TMO ban hammer. Tiggles might still be here telling people to Deal with it.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because this isn't RNF I won't troll at all.

From what I can tell no guild on this server is devoid of loot corruption. But I don't know what it was like to be in Rampage at the time because I wasn't in it. I was however, raiding against them once the Forsaken/Asgard alliance started.

It was quite obvious some of the core members had nearly complete BiS (even some that didn't track). Meanwhile, all those that joined in Velious (when I started playing in a Casual Guild) were dicked, even those that tracked. Like those that left, tracked a bunch and won mobs against Forsaken/Asgard, and then didn't get their sleeper robe.

So my assessment was -- I think fairly -- the core got theirs and they didn't owe anyone jack (because they did the vast amount of the work) so they left.

What isn't talked a lot about is how Hoku basically had a melt down once we started contesting him and was negotiating rules with Detoxx (mediated by Sirkin.)

He basically already won the big race and didn't want to sit there 6 mo later fighting for it. So his guild died. But that's what happend. It's not like everyone had a big guild discussion and they all quit while uncontested.

From the perspective of people like me however, we were just getting started in Velious (having not farmed the previous expansion for 2 years -- which still sounds terrible to me). Rampage seemed to fall apart the minute they weren't getting all the best stuff 100% uncontested. They were clearly skilled but their guild model was a dated Kunark model that didn't hold up in Velious.

Edit: Let's face it...It was just timing. They could have easily never stood a chance if it weren't for the TMO ban hammer. Tiggles might still be here telling people to Deal with it.

Tiggles ? Tiggles was just a forum warrior wich did more hurt than good for tmo , and probably the worst Rogue i ever seen .He aswell goot loot because*friendship* and *services*.

About gear .... Do you realize 3 server first loots of vulak ended in ex tmo players , wich joined rampage? if i recall first katana was for Briefs , op got think the eyepatch and i got the Axe .In fact a old sk member of rampage went nuts i won it over it and quit .Thanks Nissmo for encouraging me to make a bid for it . man u always managed to rise my spirit up

And we got it fairly early . in the time we got there , yes there was QQ about players and loot, nothing new under norrath sun .

Rampage could had keep going but for what, in the end it would had ended like tmo did or ib, was a popular decission? no it was not .

Tmo lost the core , yet people step up and tried to keep up. i was always pissed people did not gave credit to Fazlazen for the job he did when Darkdeath and zeelot went mia for months and guild lacked direction and the pwoer struggles btw some officers and loly going psycho. and still lasted for years , i respect hokushin call for it,He was a guild leader i respected as player and as person.(and when drunk he had a very funny voice wich i loved).

He did much better than Zeelot and in a good manner and with respect.

Back in the day i had a long talk with fingerz about duality of this game , u can be in a guild and think the other ones are shit or arses, then because destiny is a wild bitch u end in the other side and u found people are not as bad as ur mind make em to be.

And to be honest , after years having to take shit because of certain tmo players wanted to wave their cocks in rnf and mock other players i enjoyed the no rnf and forum drama of rampage the most ,

To make a example , the player wich leaked coldbloded pic , i loved that guy but i though it was one of the most disgusting shit i ever witnessed in a videogame .

Or that bda Freak calling alarti while on his job to insult him?.

Garanted i was the one calling aliens from another dimensions to screw over people , but some people realy crosed the line.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or that bda Freak calling alarti while on his job to insult him?.

Missed that one but got me smilin' hard now

Jesus I don't miss alarti on these forums

[Naethyn]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was quite obvious some of the core members had nearly complete BiS (even some that didn't track). Meanwhile, all those that joined in Velious (when I started playing in a Casual Guild) were dicked, even those that tracked. Like those that left, tracked a bunch and won mobs against Forsaken/Asgard, and then didn't get their sleeper robe.

I was in Rampage for the last 3 months and I looted 24 Velious raid items in my short stay. They showered new guys in loot - because they were getting it all! Last Looted Date was a big deal that played a large factor in winning vulak and other items. The people who went down that track didn't get jack, because they gambled for more. I could have cared less about my last looted date and went for every 2nd best option with 10-20 hp less per slot and ended up way ahead for it.

The raid scene eventually boils down to 5-7 guys doing all of the tracking work while everyone else logs in for a kill. People burn out when they think their own guildies aren't doing enough. This mentality was magnified when FTE races started on both sides of A/A (long after rampage was gone.) On top of that the raid rules changed multiple times and they always seemed to come down when the other side was losing the most.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By the time tmo broke , the oldest former active members of the guild was me on vonhammer , and portsche.

I was around!

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not that hard to wake the sleeper.

Why didn't you guys do it?

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why didn't you guys do it?

Because we still wanted loot....like most the guild that decided to wake it because they knew it was over. But the core got there's so its kind of a win....for them personally.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Toodles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that's also exactly why Green should be made, where Kerafyrm is not able to be woken.

I hope they do this. In the next year. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ^^^

[skarlorn]

personally i woke the sleeper this morning to find the Dragon buffed with Skin like Wood

[Brut]

Wrote with a train of thought of what remembers. Some recollections of events are hazy and some weren't there for since played other servers for varying times. Some remember fairly well since they were highlights, such as the dumb FTE wars and the Rampage/Forsaken formation suspension drama hilarity. And biased obv.

- Server launches, first people to lvl50ish form Inglourious Basterds and run the show.
- Transcendence becomes 2nd major raid guild. Staff enforced rotation is formed between them and IB.
- Divinity grows up to become 3rd major raid guild. Poopsocks Nagafen to get their first raid boss kill. Staff breaks rotation. IB dominates content.
- Fish Bait is formed, led by Salty a VZTZ reject. Formed mostly of goonies and whatnot internet scum afaik. Blatantly trains people for Hate gear and whatnot. Mutiny occurs, guild reforms as Dark Ascension.
- DA becomes legit competition. Summer of poopsock comes along. Horrible ruleset about # of people sitting at dragon spawn point to "camp it" are made, resulting in 3days straight of 15+ players sitting semi-afk at Vox/Naggy/CT/whatever.
- IB merges with some of the midtier raiding guilds, forms Transatlantic Rampage.
- Late classic DA falls apart to drama (I think?).
- TMO can't break Fear.

- KUNARK LAUNCHES -
- TR still runs the show. Splinter guilds of DA (forgot the names, Dozekar was one of them?) get some random ez mobs on the side. TR farms Trakanon for teeth to get ready for Veeshan's Peak.
- TMO wipes in Droga meanwhile and loses locket camp they were trying to lock down.
- Veeshan's Peak constantly delayed.
- TR starts to wear thinner on numbers while waiting for new content.
- Leftover DA guilds and TMO form a megazerg and throw 100+ players at Trak to kill it. Gets rewarded teeth off random GM events and whatnot in solB. Starts to have enough teeth to be VP ready.
- VP finally released. TR and TMO forced to /random the dragons, forced rotation.
- TR teams up with Vesica Dei to compete with TMO zerg.
- Petitionquest wars. Paypalminda main raid GM. Horrible times ensue.
- TR reforms as IB to try to sneak in VP kills. Something about TMO leaving PD up for a stupid long time which pissed them off so they went for it. VP rotation breaks. Train wars. The bigger zerg triumphs.
- Mobs split back and forth between IB and TMO. Some major petitionquest suspension drama occurs, both guilds suspended, but then randomly TMO gets unsuspended, IB gets mad af, RMTs off server.
- Leftover memberbase joins VD. VD trolled and griefed off server by TMO.
- Bregan D'Aerth (sp?) becomes #2 raid guild of server by default since only guild to do upper sky islands etc. Leftover IB/VD join BDA.
- TMO happy about BDA competing. Then BDA actually gets some mobs. TMO then declares BDA is scum and is secretly IB/VD in disguise and needs to be griefed off the server as well.
- One happy Trakanon attempt, TMO wipes their first engage. BDA calmly clears juggs and goes in, TMO snipes FTE and petitions that their 6 rez effex'd half-naked people running into it were a raid force, they want the loot. GM gives them the loot. TMO brags in RnF and claims they'll do this to BDA scum every raid from now on.
- BDA adopts the FTE over all strat. Starts to just port random teams of monks to Hate to jav Inny as TMO is engaging, petitions, actually gets loot. TMO cries foul in RnF and how unfair this is.
- BDA actually puts up a fight, recall taking 3 VS in a row. Internal drama happens, VD/IB populance wants more strict raiding requirements etc DKP and whatnot.
- Forceful Entry splits off BDA. Fights with TMO, takes time to get off, actually starts to dominate content outside VP. TMO brags how VP is all that matters and they need to come there to fight. Train wars are the best thing in game says TMO.
- FE goes to VP. TMO parks their entire raid out of zone boundaries so they don't get trained cuz train wars are the best thing in game (?!).
- FE can't compete with the zerg # and all the bought toons with rez sticks and whatnot preparked in the zone. Sloan is a goof and spends 20h play sessions with some other dudes wasting time training Necrious and whatnot all day long. Guild leadership neglects rest of targets, people get fed up, results are bad.
- FE falls apart as such. Scrapes some crap mobs here and there. Sloan poofs. Horrible times of career idiot Shinko as guildleader.
- IB starts to come back to server after waking Sleepy on EQmac and ruining their lives there. Teams up with FE to compete with TMO again.
- IB/FE vs TMO is trucking along, whatevs, same old. VP still under TMO controls sans some random dragons here and there sniped by preparking. Phara Dar once, big deal apparently.
- Froovygate happens. Major TMO members caught duping and RMTing, also one of their top officers (I think?) decided to ninja loot some Druushk loot when salty and mad about losing it. Rogean raid suspends TMO for like a month or something.
- Zeelot ragequits server when seeing the writing on the wall. TMO left in shambles.
- Server raid suspended as playerbase meant to come up with their own rotation ideas to let everyone get merbs from here on out.
- Weeks of nothing happening as any agreement is shot down by salty BDA leadership.
- Rogean puts foot down and enforces a rotation with tier system.
- FE/IB vs TMO leftovers, new raid rules, no VP training now, other humbug all around. Coth ducking is a thing now. Casuals get mobs too and form their own rotation for them.
- Casual rotation falls apart due to too many alliances and small guilds joining in. Big surprise. BDA and Taken, the top 2 guilds, throw the rotation out the window and just eat all the casual mobs themselves. Divinity takes the rest. CSG is formed (think it was Europa, Omni, aaand something) to compete with Divinity over the leftovers of leftovers.
- FE goes full scum and teams up with TMO to form a new megazerg mother of all megazergs. 120 player Xygoz raid. Disgusting. IB left with 20ish people to compete on their own.
- IB fights back, FETMO megazerg starts dwindling as late Kunark goes along. IB pulls together. Guildleader Getsome disappears on a fishing trip.
- IB reforms as Rampage due to said fishing trip. They were raid suspended at the time of reform, asked GM if they're still raid suspended, was told no, went for a Nexona. FETMO cried foul, Rampage offered to give up Nexonas to compensate in spite of being allowed by staff to kill stuff. FETMO cried no, demands week of free mobs. Didn't get any of such.
- Rampage vs FETMO back and forth no one has a real advantage, primarily due to Nalken's scripts and macros to secure them PDs.
- FETMO reforms as Forsaken. Same thing, different name. Gets raid suspended first week of their formation since genius leader thought they could go snipe R tier mobs from BDA and Taken. Rogean said nope.
- Same old back and forth continues.

- VELIOUS LAUNCHES -
- Serverwide tier system rotation gone completely.
- Rampage runs the show and gets most everything. Locks down ST keys. Farms content for some months for free. Gets all the relevant server firsts.
- Forsaken teams up with Asgard and Taken to zerg it up. Trains and dramas and whatnot.
- Coth ducking wars and other lame nonsense and zerg rushing. Think Taken ditched the Forsaken&Asgard team and teamed up with Rampage? Don't remember this part too well, I ragequit due to the good vyemm eye going to a shaman (he had the wrong face too /nod).
- Rampage calls it quits after Forsakengard snipes a Vulak and gets server first Gharns I think? Wakes up Sleepy on their way out to piss people off. Good riddance monk robes.
- Leftover Rampage form Bacon or something. Teams up with Taken and forms Awakened after a bit. Forsakengard merge to form Aftermath because they wanted to be earlier on /who all guild searches or something stupid.
- BDA leaves server. Bye.
- Divinity also vanished at some point. RIP oldest guild on server. Think Europa has that crown now?
- Some departed IB comes back to form Rustle because ???. Didn't get the big red carpet hero welcome invitation to Awakened that they expected, got salty, dedicated their time to petitionquesting against Awakened and teamed up with Aftermath and told them how to kill Tunare and how to do the ring war.
- Bunch of petitionquest wars occur. Tons of suspensions and nonsense.
- Current state. Alot of casual guilds have died down. Rustle seems to be pretty much gone. CSG seems to be trying alot less. A/A farming server with same old back and forth.