Game Mechanics: Paladin holy forge disc

[Ennewi]

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Deavi Rth
Xian's Master =(
(9/21/01 9:39:04 am)

Holyforge so useless... yet fun sometimes.
Holyforge is the most useless and utterly disapointing disc Paladins get. The ability to crit and crip vs undead should be a natural one. I mean seriously how many times we come across undead? There is only ONE boss that actually REGISTERS as undead. Maestro... Draco... Trak... etc are undead but don't register as such. Only Venril Sathir is undead and registers... But how fun would it be if we didnt need a disipline to do this:



Hehe always fun to see people's faces when the paly lands the huge Crip... this was with Frostwrath by the way. (yes, 1handed) /brag off :P
Deavi R`th, Crusader of Tunare
Visions, Lanys T`Vyl
"What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do
for others and the world remains, and is immortal..."

Ferok
h0x0r!
(9/21/01 9:51:38 am)

Re: Holyforge so useless... yet fun sometimes.
I saw a crip for 599 somewhere, but for a 20ish damage weapon thats damn nice. Ferok will play with this skill some day =D.

Coramoor
The Valiant
(9/22/01 10:47:52 am)
re
My highest crit is 375 or something

its a useless disc normally

Hess Steelskin
p0\/\/3r-p0sT3r!
(9/30/01 8:00:00 am)
Re: re
583, Venril Sathir, Fiery Defender

Hess

[Sirpok]

Yup

[Lostfaction]

Bump

[Alam Mchealer]

2024 bump

[p99portage]

Bump

[solvent]

Some people have mentioned a quick fix of making this disc a triple attack, an alternative would be to make this a defensive disc instead of offensive disc. There is plenty that could be considered. Personally I always imagine paladins as a defensive, AC, and sheild class that should have discs based around wielding a sheild. A few examples when active holyforge 1: ignores attacker level when calculating AC avoidance or 2: triples sheild AC bonus or 3: bash always lands and stuns.

[Crede]

bump, didn't see this in latest fixes

[cadiz]

Would be wonderful to see attention on this pending developer resources.

[chillybob]

bump

[nilbog]

I have some pending changes for holyforge. Well, it works now at least.

I'd like some help with additional research.

Did the critical hits only affect undead? I recall my paladin getting crits versus living sometimes but it may have been a limited bug, and I don't remember ever crippling vs a living npc.

Are there any available combat log snippets/screenshots of a player using holyforge prior to 2002?