why is t-staff 50k now?

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am sorry I assumed you were talking about the TSTAFF not a peacebringer, since its what the thread was about and you didnt specify or quote what you were replying to.

Writing for comprehension.

The three posts immediately preceding what you quoted from me were discussing peacebringer. Generally, when reading something (be it novel, academic text, or forum quest) it is best to start at the beginning and proceed in an orderly fashion in the direction of the end.

Cheers!

[fadetree]

All people have to do to combat the evil fat cats is to not buy them at 70k. How come they don't do that? Because, in fact, they are worth that much. If that's what people are willing to pay, then that is exactly how much it's worth.

The truth is, it's the buyers and not the evil fat cats that make the problem. If people stop buying them, I guarantee the price will go down.

[Jimjam]

I've seen more Skeletal Warlords drop Velium Great Staffs than T-Staffs!

[Troxx]

IFS will be damn good with the new damage bonuses but I'm pretty sure the sweet spot for delay is 28. IFS will make for some impressively strong hits along with generating both few mob ripostes and BIG pc ripostes on NPCs. Defensively speaking, the stun proc on TStaff will more than make up for the 33% more ripostes (30 delay vs 40).

I'm not sure what other weapon is eluded to other than:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Ton_Po%2..._Understanding

It no longer drops and there is allegedly only one in existence on blue (none on red)

http://wiki.project1999.com/Special:...Blunt/AllItems

If you sort this by ratio you'll see that TStaff is the 6th best ratio for monk 2handers in the entire game. IFS is the 7th best. If you take out the one (literally one period in existence) that no longer drops, they rank 5th and 6th best. Numbers 1-4 are raid nodrops and not relevant to discussions regarding market prices. The 19/20 2hb has an inferior ratio to TStaff and will be too fast to see any improvements with the dmg bonus changes.

So yeah ...

-5th best ratio 2hb in the game
-best ratio 2hb tradable in game
-proc that is in a league of its own
-currently competitive dps to epic/SoS
-soon to be frankly better
-rare rare drop
-lots of monks and monk twinks

I bet the price for IFS bumps to the 10-15k range. I expect TStaff market price will go UP from the 50k mark to rival CoF price ... and possibly (maybe) settle in the 50-60 range long term.

[Alanus]

Warlord is camped 24/7, so there is probably a good amount of them on the server.

However, it's still a rare as hell drop (I spent most of 54-60 in KC and never saw one drop or heard of one). It's also the best droppable weapon for a very popular (among both mains and alts/twinks) class.

So 50k is certainly not unreasonable, although the sudden price increase when it was already BIS-droppable is a bit suspicious.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Alanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So 50k is certainly not unreasonable, although the sudden price increase when it was already BIS-droppable is a bit suspicious.

With respect to dps ... it is not currently "BIS" if you factor in that most monks who could hunt long enough for one themselves or afford the price tag can easily finish their epic. It's still not BIS yet for raw dps ... but it will be. You could argue it was (is ... and will be even more so) BIS when you factor in the proc though.

Price jumped in anticipation of it being the undeniably BIS weapon absent TOV/VP raid loot.

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would not surprise me at all if they never implement triple attack because what would be the point in making monks more powerful on a time locked server where they are already immensely powerful...

Except for the fact that it is classic and within the scope of where this server is headed and ultimately stopping.

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except for the fact that it is classic and within the scope of where this server is headed and ultimately stopping.

The prelaunch Lucilin patch is debatable if its 'classic' or 'the beginning of the end' and needs to be omitted.

And it is not 'undeniably' a BiS weapon because we have NO IDEA how the patch will be implemented. perhaps the increased monk damage tables will make 1h that much better? We don't know!

[turbosilk]

It's 50k because the next patch is making all the spa monkeys roll monks.

[Troxx]

Increased damage tables will work just as well for 2handers as it does for one handers.

[Fasttimes]

Rangers will still out dps them.