Solo Melee class

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're on a 25K budget things fungis are out of the question.

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree - you could roll a monk with absolutely nothing except a fungi tunic, assuming you can afford just the fungi.

(quotes cropped, obviously) I have no idea how to make these two posts fit together in to a narrative that makes sense.

[paulgiamatti]

The fungi is a given. He has 20-25k to spend in addition to a fungi, which is what Danth glossed over. I was merely speaking to the advantages monks have over other melee classes when undergeared - they're actually the class you'd most want to roll if you're going light on gear. You can take the fungi out of the equation and that's still true.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by MikeXG [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And lets assume no fungi but 20-25kish worth of gear each. Saving for the fungi right now and whichever I pick gets it pretty much.

I ignored the fungi because he doesn't have one yet and might not for some time depending on how rapidly he does or doesn't make money.

I strongly disagree with respect to a minimum-budget Monk. I don't care about alts that much so on the rare occasions I fuss around with a low-level character, it's going to be wearing junk...banded or bronze, some 100p bank vault weapon, just crap I have laying around. The hybrid melees vastly out-perform the Monk in that type of situation, at least for me. The spellbooks make the difference. Being able to kite becomes critical when you have little or no healing and 700 HP and those aviaks are hitting you for double 45's a round.

Strictly between Ranger and Shadow Knight it seems like the Ranger might be closer to what he's looking for....although I'm not sure what a Ranger could do that his Bard main couldn't already do. I don't want to suggest the Shadow Knight, however, because I feel they make relatively poor alts due to only coming into their own at very high levels.

Danth

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by MikeXG [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Love the monk class but it is really between sk and ranger as ive done monk several times before

If high level farming is part of your criteria, go ranger. Tracking is indispensible, even just for leveling. I mean the tracking list gives you the con color for each mob with the ability to filter out what you don't want. The SK might fare a little better in the fight, but that doesn't really matter when the ranger already pulled the mob.

[Cecily]

60 Ranger's aren't a good solo farmer. Best farmer in the game for greens, blues.. I'd take fear kiting on anything and FD splits.

There's very little outdoors worthwhile to track, and there's very little dungeon content ranger friendly. I love rangers and hate SKs, but rangers are outmatched for big named hunting. Druids are better than either for sub 51 mobs, terrible at green farming.

Really what you wanna do is make an enc or shaman, sadly. Ideally enc, because their cost to be solo-worthy is a fraction of a shaman's.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If high level farming is part of your criteria, go ranger.

Just wanted to laugh at this comment in specific.

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really what you wanna do is make an enc or shaman, sadly. Ideally enc, because their cost to be solo-worthy is a fraction of a shaman's.

i made a fortune soloing willowisps on my rogue in the teens

I would really like to see someone take rogue soloing to the next level

[Kesselring]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've soloed Sir Lucan (both versions, with a full guard spawn) on my 60 ranger, self-buffed, without using a single clicky. I challenge any monk to do the same.

What do u mean by full guard spawn? Also hes pretty easy when it comes to using magic. The dude stays rooted for like 60 seconds when I use a root net to pull him to commons zoneline. I think it would be do-able with a monk who has 1200AC+ self buffed and has utility and uses bandage trick. Also has to be an Iksar for obvious reasons unless your human is decked out. But hes not disarmable. (At least he wasn't the 5 times I killed him, and I got the message that he was disarmed twice during combat and he still was holding 2 swords). Hes a pretty tough fight without magic. I guess a monk could use a slowstone but that would be overdoing it tbh, you just need a fungi you can outregen him with enough ac.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just wanted to laugh at this comment in specific.

Name something a shadow knight can farm that a ranger can't. If you pose that question the other way around you have the TT and FM cycles, for starters. Not to mention the added ease of just popping into a zone and instantly knowing whether something is up. Not to mention being able to farm tons of other stuff with efficiency like trade skill materials, Coldain quest items, etc. And again, it doesn't matter if a shadow knight can fear kite something when they're unequipped to FTE the mob or even know if the mob is up.

[fadetree]

Yadda yadda.
OP, If your sole concern is getting to 50, then I don't know why you are talking about melee. What's so important about 50? Roll a chanter or necro. You'll get back to 30 and probably still hit 50 faster than either melee.
In my opinion, having to wonder whether you should play your Ranger or not means you shouldn't.