Ogre still best sk?

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by demokatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I still choose human, iksar or DE.. what would u put them starting points in? all in STA och perhaps STR/STA?

Go all STA, it's the most important stat for you as a tank, and all of those inferior races start with 60-70 less STA than ogres, meaning they need those starting stats in STA.

Dex, Str, both these stats are easier to get buffed or attained by gears later on.

Starting out it will be painful having low str and low dex, but in the long run it will pay off to have your points placed into STA.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by demokatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I still choose human, iksar or DE.. what would u put them starting points in? all in STA och perhaps STR/STA?

That depends on what your goal is. If you intend joining a raiding guild, you will easily get STR capped, so STA all the way.

If you never think you'll get 60 or join a raiding guild then it doesn't really matter.

[Jimjam]

Cecily's complaint is about other people's oversized ogres making it difficult for melee.

As they are self only, the existence of shrink potions does not help dps when there are fatties that refuse to use them.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cecily's complaint is about other people's oversized ogres making it difficult for melee.

As they are self only, the existence of shrink potions does not help dps when there are fatties that refuse to use them.

Those are bad ogres then.

They should be prepared to make others at ease with their massive size by shrinking down one time.

People feel much more comfortable with ogres when they are small, cute and cuddly!

[Troxx]

I'm still laughing at the insistence ogres have a hidden stat.

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm still laughing at the insistence ogres have a hidden stat.

Yeah i've been laughing about that for awhile now. Guy thinks nobody but him has played ogre lol. ( and even funnier thinks no one has looked at the code to find this ever) Ive played all the tank races except iksar and human and yeah theres no hidden values. Confrmation bias or tricked by the stats prob a combinaion of the two.

[welly321]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah i've been laughing about that for awhile now. Guy thinks nobody but him has played ogre lol. ( and even funnier thinks no one has looked at the code to find this ever) Ive played all the tank races except iksar and human and yeah theres no hidden values. Confrmation bias or tricked by the stats prob a combinaion of the two.

Third option, Guy has an autistic obsession with ogres and nothing anyone says will change his mind.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah i've been laughing about that for awhile now. Guy thinks nobody but him has played ogre lol. ( and even funnier thinks no one has looked at the code to find this ever) Ive played all the tank races except iksar and human and yeah theres no hidden values. Confrmation bias or tricked by the stats prob a combinaion of the two.

Back up your anecdotal evidence then since you "know" there are no hidden values or codes.

Your words are no more relative or true than mine, just because you "played all the tank races" blah blah blah. I laugh at that.

Clearly your subjective and anecdotal evidence you've pulled out your ass regarding ogres and hidden values means more than mine. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Razaz]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Back up your anecdotal evidence then since you "know" there are no hidden values or codes.

The exact same can be said about you. Why don't you back up your anecdotal evidence of these hidden values with real evidence? Until you do, 255 strength is going to be the same on an ogre as it is on a gnome.

People will debate the value of FSI until the end of EQ, but, it's not debatable that it exists. Since you love Ogres so much, prove these hidden values do exist, and spread the gospel of Rallos Zek's creations.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Razaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The exact same can be said about you. Why don't you back up your anecdotal evidence of these hidden values with real evidence? Until you do, 255 strength is going to be the same on an ogre as it is on a gnome.

People will debate the value of FSI until the end of EQ, but, it's not debatable that it exists. Since you love Ogres so much, prove these hidden values do exist, and spread the gospel of Rallos Zek's creations.

I love all races of Norrath. I just have to admit the superiority of ogres to other races. Doesn't mean I like them more or less.

I also ackowledged already my proof is purely anecdotal, I never said anything differently.

At least I didn't proclaim, "I played all the races as warriors and thus hold supreme knowledge and proof that ogres have no such hidden values!"

I laugh at that.