Multiple sources reporting FoH departing server

[nyclin]

Originally Posted by CorndogJr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA getting shit on for the first 9 months of Velious before running off is not much of a loot conveyor belt. Couldn't kill anything in Velious. Got nothing in VP until Taken decided to rotate with them.

as someone who was present for their historic server first wuoshi, dain, and vindi kills.. how dare you

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by CorndogJr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA getting shit on for the first 9 months of Velious before running off is not much of a loot conveyor belt. Couldn't kill anything in Velious. Got nothing in VP until Taken decided to rotate with them.

Definitely bullshit.

I was present at BDA's triumphant attack on VP shortly after velious release. We killed nexona.

[Tupakk]

Originally Posted by CorndogJr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grats Chest/Chest Alts/Chest Bank on Tanglewood Shield, CBOL, Ring of Winter, and Dain Cloak? Did he get a bo staff, or did someone else have to take some loot?

Don't hate on Chest. He's awesome. Prolly the best guild leader besides Marhault that I've had the pleasure of playing with.

[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by Tupakk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't hate on Chest. He's awesome. Prolly the best guild leader besides Marhault that I've had the pleasure of playing with.

What guild does Marhault lead?

[Tupakk]

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What guild does Marhault lead?

Did. Started with Indignation > Super Friends > Radiant > now its back to Indig.

I'm not sure if he lead all of them but it was his core group that kept it going.

[TimTheToolmanTaylor]

they're going to be in for a real fucking surprise on agnarr since SKs will insta death touch as soon as it spawns. oh wait everything can be instanced now? nvm have fun in your singlequest game.

[Erati]

I understand wanting to get established early but it is a mistake for a Velious capable guild to think moving back to Classic EQ ( Naggy,Vox, Inny, CT (both 2.0 versions lol)) will not be a huge let down in terms of aspirational goals

its going to be nearly a half a calendar year before content is released in line with P99's timeline and I understand that FoH/V dont see a lot of raid content currently but I also dont think they understand how unfun killing instanced Lord Nagafen every week will be. When BDA jumped ship, Phinny was 1 month into Velious and Luclin was approaching. BDA simply crawled up through Kunark and did the entire progression leading up to the Luclin launch so they were ready. Hopefully your leaders understand this and have some creative plans for raiding to keep things fresh, though the revamped Hate/Fearplane should keep things challenging as it will be very difficult to clear it all at lvl cap 50.

Oh well, to each their own...honestly the smart thing to do is have a guild establishing themselves on the side on Agnarr now, building some KR/guildbank and casual group of characters but actually campaign to raid and recruit when Velious launches to prepare for the exciting journey of Luclin>PoP>LDON

Your guild will be burnt out due to boredom of instances if you guys go too hard before the good stuff comes out, so try to think big picture and GL !

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand wanting to get established early but it is a mistake for a Velious capable guild to think moving back to Classic EQ ( Naggy,Vox, Inny, CT (both 2.0 versions lol)) will not be a huge let down in terms of aspirational goals

its going to be nearly a half a calendar year before content is released in line with P99's timeline and I understand that FoH/V dont see a lot of raid content currently but I also dont think they understand how unfun killing instanced Lord Nagafen every week will be. When BDA jumped ship, Phinny was 1 month into Velious and Luclin was approaching. BDA simply crawled up through Kunark and did the entire progression leading up to the Luclin launch so they were ready. Hopefully your leaders understand this and have some creative plans for raiding to keep things fresh, though the revamped Hate/Fearplane should keep things challenging as it will be very difficult to clear it all at lvl cap 50.

Oh well, to each their own...honestly the smart thing to do is have a guild establishing themselves on the side on Agnarr now, building some KR/guildbank and casual group of characters but actually campaign to raid and recruit when Velious launches to prepare for the exciting journey of Luclin>PoP>LDON

Your guild will be burnt out due to boredom of instances if you guys go too hard before the good stuff comes out, so try to think big picture and GL !

I haven't been following the agnarr stuff too closely--what do you mean though that people will get burnt out due to how unfun instances are? What is the unfun aspect of it, not having to race another guild to fight the boss?

My understanding of it is that whoever engages the boss first takes it, that excitement would last for a few seconds, and if you didn't engage it, aren't you just not doing content and wasting everyone's time?

Is the entire dungeon instanced, or just that one engagement?

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I haven't been following the agnarr stuff too closely--what do you mean though that people will get burnt out due to how unfun instances are? What is the unfun aspect of it, not having to race another guild to fight the boss?

My understanding of it is that whoever engages the boss first takes it, that excitement would last for a few seconds, and if you didn't engage it, aren't you just not doing content and wasting everyone's time?

Is the entire dungeon instanced, or just that one engagement?

Yes, when you 'raid Lord Nagafen' you get an entire Sol B instance to yourselves to which I agree can be a breath of fresh air when you are used to raid mobs not living for more than 10 min here on 99 however...

that same Lord Nagafen hits for over 500+ and can be killed with any lvl characters. Only the open world Lord Nagafen follows the 'lvl 52' max limit ( tho this wont be an issue in classic but he will be hitting for unclassic 500+ melee )

Im simply saying that classic raiding, especially when instanced, will get very boring bc you can only progress so far looting the occasional Cloaks of Flames and there are 0 epic quests. Classic is pretty boring for a raid guild which was my premise, its a mistake to move a RAID guild to Agnarr with the intent to raid on release.

@Gimp I am not speaking to just the repetition of instances ( thats obvious ), I am more so speaking about entertaining a raiding guild with very limited raids in classic and the ones that are there are very much not tuned for lvl 50 characters. I dont forsee any burnout unless they plan on raiding 3-4 nights a week for some reason, the real goal should just be to establish and farm as you wait for Velious/Luclin/PoP. Kunark is only used for epic quests as all that gear will be near worthless with instances since its all tradable outside of VP which has had many of its clickies nerfed already. Any guild moving over with the intent to raid classic hardcore is retarded and needs to examine their long term goals unless Server Firsts is one of them, then I will step aside and watch the race.

[Gimp]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, when you 'raid Lord Nagafen' you get an entire Sol B instance to yourselves to which I agree can be a breath of fresh air when you are used to raid mobs not living for more than 10 min here on 99 however...

that same Lord Nagafen hits for over 500+ and can be killed with any lvl characters. Only the open world Lord Nagafen follows the 'lvl 52' max limit ( tho this wont be an issue in classic but he will be hitting for unclassic 500+ melee )

Im simply saying that classic raiding, especially when instanced, will get very boring bc you can only progress so far looting the occasional Cloaks of Flames and there are 0 epic quests. Classic is pretty boring for a raid guild which was my premise, its a mistake to move a RAID guild to Agnarr with the intent to raid on release.

@Gimp I am not speaking to just the repetition of instances ( thats obvious ), I am more so speaking about entertaining a raiding guild with very limited raids in classic and the ones that are there are very much not tuned for lvl 50 characters. I dont forsee any burnout unless they plan on raiding 3-4 nights a week for some reason, the real goal should just be to establish and farm as you wait for Velious/Luclin/PoP. Kunark is only used for epic quests as all that gear will be near worthless with instances since its all tradable outside of VP which has had many of its clickies nerfed already. Any guild moving over with the intent to raid classic hardcore is retarded and needs to examine their long term goals unless Server Firsts is one of them, then I will step aside and watch the race.

Don't think I've seen anyone from FoH claim they're going to go hardcore in classic. It's kinda impossible to, considering there's only so much content. They have to herpderp around for however long until Kunark/Velious and then they'll have access to all the content they wanted to see here. I'm not sure what you're so adamant about..they're not killing shit here, they'll get to kill everything on Agnarr. It's not like y'all are losing any of that precious "competition" y'all always talk about. You and Aftermath will still have your ToV/Tunare/AoW circlejerks to occupy your time. FoH is choosing to occupy theirs in a much healthier manner.

Good for them on making the move.