Why are GMs so soft these days??

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Find another soccer field.

Point me to a classic soccer field where the players aren't able to play with robots or kill other players.

[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Point me to a classic soccer field where the players aren't able to play with robots or kill other players.

Oh man that probably would be the only way i'd be interested in watching soccer.

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

8 teams want to play soccer on one field. 2 of 8 play on that field night and day, sometimes against each other, sometimes with each other, generally with each other when one of the other 6 teams decides they will try to play. All the while, the 2 ignore the rules of the game, they pick up and carry the ball, they knock other players down, they might even go so far as park a truck in front of their own goal. All goals the first 2 teams score counts as points against the other 6 teams. When the 6 teams remark about how they can't even play the game, let alone "win", the 2 chastise them for not "competing" at their level.

What kind of "competition" do you advocate?

Oh, and the ref says, "ref yourselves".

I don't advocate, I just wanted to understand what you meant. Your point is that competition can only exist within a given set of rules, and if one 'team' habitually breaks the rules then it's not really competition any more, it's just cheating.
I agree with you in principle, but I don't know how that gets expressed in EQ unless its PvP and/or a vigilant, rules oriented group of GMs that enforce a rule set.

Instancing 'solves' the problem by removing the competition, and brings it's own problems, but I don't know that some kind of controlled or limited instancing is such a terrible idea.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your concept of competition is what needs to be deconstructed. Namely, there's nothing wrong with competition in general but you don't like *this* particular kind of competition.

So, curious - what kind of competition would be OK here? What kind would not simply be 'griefing' other players? Or do you advocate no player on player competition and just PvE?

It's always have and have nots. I think the general consensus is to forgo trying to get every pixel norrath has to offer on a mob or two each week and rotate those around etc. I don't think anyone wants full rotations. But something similiar to what happened during awakeneds 2nd suspension.

You can never make everyone happy. It's all about a solid fair middle ground. I mean giving trak and vp rots are gone. That could be a good start something small but in the end really not gonna hurt the mouthbreathers in tov. Shrug idk. Lots of personalities and egos come into play so organizing anything of the sorts will take miracle.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's always have and have nots. I think the general consensus is to forgo trying to get every pixel norrath has to offer on a mob or two each week and rotate those around etc. I don't think anyone wants full rotations. But something similiar to what happened during awakeneds 2nd suspension.

You can never make everyone happy. It's all about a solid fair middle ground. I mean giving trak and vp rots are gone. That could be a good start something small but in the end really not gonna hurt the mouthbreathers in tov. Shrug idk. Lots of personalities and egos come into play so organizing anything of the sorts will take miracle.

The answer is instances or another server with it's own play rules, which is essentially an instance and very classic.

We would have seen the levels of retardation we have here on classic live if they only had one server for raiding.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The answer is instances or another server with it's own play rules, which is essentially an instance and very classic.

We would have seen the levels of retardation we have here on classic live if they only had one server for raiding.

True that.

Sirken already said don't let the door hit you on the way out. I don't care how the chips fall but it's just silly that this pixel mouthbreathing horde is still here Taunting people over kunark dragons when awakened you've wiped to more in the last month than we have all year with more than double our numbers (our 1 wipe to your 3 wipes LOL).

It's just the Zerg mentality that's native to non instanced EQ even as I poke at awakened i know it's just Years of butt hurt coming to fruition due to TMO.

[Dolalin]

Guilding as many long-term unemployed people as possible in order to engage targets at all hours isn't "competing" at anything except the special olympics.

[kotton05]

I'd prefer us to settle guild disputes in twisted metal tournaments tbh

[Whirled]

Originally Posted by Salelor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

B
There is no reason to play nice, outside the play nice policy.

http://www.distractify.com/geek/2016...y-youre-a-jerk
http://www.higherperspectives.com/as...565133416.html

Some people just never learned to play nice. Mandatory military training; like other countries already do, would snap a few thorny twigs in their asses to be more neighborly, imo. Some people even make a life style on "getting one over on others."

It's more about the latest gadget, bragging item#9912, or any other over-consumption piece of flare of the hour, for some. It should be about caring for that elderly neighbor, 2 houses down, who has no family to look after her/him. Picking up that newspaper that landed in the rain and placing it in a safe spot for the subscriber. Holding a door for that handicapped person. Smiling and conversing with all your neighbors to get to know them; instead of secretly loathing (or avoiding) them without knowing who they are.

Instead, you have what the 21st century has brought us. Self absorbed, google wielding, know-it-alls, that will take any troll worthy issue (like someones grammar mistakes) then the actual idea of what they speak of.

Leave the PvP on the PvP servers. PvE should be about competing against the game itself & not another player fashioned game within the game of Everquest.

[aaezil]

"8 teams want to play soccer on one field. 2 of 8 play on that field night and day, sometimes against each other, sometimes with each other, generally with each other when one of the other 6 teams decides they will try to play. All the while, the 2 ignore the rules of the game, they pick up and carry the ball, they knock other players down, they might even go so far as park a truck in front of their own goal. All goals the first 2 teams score counts as points against the other 6 teams. When the 6 teams remark about how they can't even play the game, let alone "win", the 2 chastise them for not "competing" at their level.

What kind of "competition" do you advocate?

Oh, and the ref says, "ref yourselves".


Easy solution to that - permaban the two downs syndrome autistic teams...