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Old 12-20-2016, 08:52 AM
fadetree fadetree is offline
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Ikon: you are saying that they "did too implement a play nice policy", thinking apparently that fastboy21 is trying to say they didn't.
Fastboy21: you're saying "OK, fine, but that's not my point, my point is that it didn't work and it won't work here for the same reason", apparently thinking that Ikon is paying attention.
Dunno if you started out together and somebody switched points quickly after having been proven wrong, but you can't win an argument unless you have matching points. For what it's worth, I agree with Fastboy.
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:09 AM
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Ikon: you are saying that they "did too implement a play nice policy", thinking apparently that fastboy21 is trying to say they didn't.
Fastboy21: you're saying "OK, fine, but that's not my point, my point is that it didn't work and it won't work here for the same reason", apparently thinking that Ikon is paying attention.
Dunno if you started out together and somebody switched points quickly after having been proven wrong, but you can't win an argument unless you have matching points. For what it's worth, I agree with Fastboy.
My point is this is a classic server designed to allow us to experience original everquest, not P1999 everquest. The original developers implemented a solution to permacamping / asshaterry. issues identical to those now facing this server. The solution was implemented. It was enforced. People clearly adhered to it.

I posted evidence. Fastboy posted his opinion. His opinion is irrelevant. My opinion is irrelevant. Your agreement is irrelevant.

The only relevant thing is evidence, which I have provided and others although furiously attempting to refute it, with strawmen and opinion, have not.

Thank you.
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:13 AM
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:13 AM
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My irrelevant opinion is that you are mad, OP.

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Old 12-20-2016, 09:26 AM
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My irrelevant opinion is that you are mad, OP.

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That is irrelevant as well as being incorrect.
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:30 AM
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My point is this is a classic server. The developers implemented a solution to permacamping / asshaterry to deal with issues. The solution was implemented. It was enforced. People clearly adhered to it.

I posted evidence. Fastboy posted his opinion. His opinion is irrelevant. My opinion is irrelevant. Your agreement is irrelevant.

The only relevant thing is evidence, which I have provided and others although furiously attempting to refute it, with strawmen and opinion, have not.

Thank you.
People don't make up their minds with trifles like "evidence" and "facts". Emotions lead the way. First you must get them to feel icky about whatever cause they so strongly believe in, then make your agenda feel like the obvious good choice that brings warm fuzzies to them, then you will be able to implement whichever policies you fancy.

For this lot, first you need to make them feel icky about putting their imaginary pixelworld persons first over the good of all the other imaginary pixelworld persons, maybe try to link anarchist tendencies to Hitler or Pedobear somehow.

Second, you must get them excited about playing nice and sharing the pixelworld peacefully. Tell them they will ascend to pixelheaven where 72 pixelvirgins await them when the server shuts down, but only if they rotate their pixels. Or, if they don't believe in a pixelheaven, well in that case, they're probably the sort that take trifles like facts and evidence into consideration and if your case is strong enough, you've won them already.
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:45 AM
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People don't make up their minds with trifles like "evidence" and "facts". Emotions lead the way. First you must get them to feel icky about whatever cause they so strongly believe in, then make your agenda feel like the obvious good choice that brings warm fuzzies to them, then you will be able to implement whichever policies you fancy.

For this lot, first you need to make them feel icky about putting their imaginary pixelworld persons first over the good of all the other imaginary pixelworld persons, maybe try to link anarchist tendencies to Hitler or Pedobear somehow.

Second, you must get them excited about playing nice and sharing the pixelworld peacefully. Tell them they will ascend to pixelheaven where 72 pixelvirgins await them when the server shuts down, but only if they rotate their pixels. Or, if they don't believe in a pixelheaven, well in that case, they're probably the sort that take trifles like facts and evidence into consideration and if your case is strong enough, you've won them already.
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:58 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BDBzgHXf64

Well, there's the proof. Black & white, clear as crystal.
Let's remove the asshattery and let the good times roll!
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Old 12-20-2016, 06:31 PM
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I believe what you are experiencing is extreme bias causing you an acute inability to comprehend the obvious, there is no external cure I can provide since its a self inflicted disease that only you can remedy. Have a nice one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Really? Not agreeing with your opinion that what you posted is evidence for your argument is a self inflicted disease? The only possible alternative to agreeing with you is that I have an acute inability to comprehend the obvious? Very humble of you.

How about this: A forum post and an threaded discussion from the year 2000 doesn't actually prove your assertion.

Here is what the links you posted "proved": there was a PNP policy on live. People discussed it online. Some were happy and some were not with the new policies.

That's about all I see the links you posted as proving. I don't know what ground breaking game changing evidence you think you've uncovered here for p99 development.
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Old 12-20-2016, 07:39 PM
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I'm willing to do this on blue and never play my characters there again.
Just wanted to point out that as a P99 guide or senior guide you can still play as many characters as you want, you just aren't allowed to disclose to your guide identity.
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