Monopolizing Scout in WW... - Page 5

Duane · #1 12-13-2016, 01:12 PM

After winning 3 in a row, the salty tells were pretty good; I even made some streamer sperg out. I handed broken discs to guildies. 52ms, spamming trade bound on the spawn spot facing a certain direction. Isn't hard. Isn't fun either.
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Leiker · #2 12-13-2016, 01:22 PM

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Really guys.....
Your just in the wrong spot facing the wrong way.
People who can bind have infinity more chance to get the turn in compared to people to can't.
I swapped my main (melee) to turn in for my caster and I get the scout turn in quite a bit once I found a good spot.

If your not getting it, try a better spot, learn from your mistakes and try again.

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After winning 3 in a row, the salty tells were pretty good; I even made some streamer sperg out. I handed broken discs to guildies. 52ms, spamming trade bound on the spawn spot facing a certain direction. Isn't hard. Isn't fun either.

All good advice and this should be bare minimum for anyone attempting scout. You dont NEED to be able to bind to know the correct spot to stand on. Just use /loc and geographical markers to determine heading and make sure you have your trade windows aligned correctly. Again though, wont help you when up against a macro-clicker.

Without a doubt, a lot of people do get scout in a legitimate way and its not hard if there is no macro-clicker present. Lots of people who come to scout to do the turnin have no clue about what to do. You can even trick clueless people into standing at the wrong spot, quite hilarious. Doesnt change anything that has been said about macro-clickers.

Duane · #3 12-13-2016, 01:26 PM

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You dont NEED to be able to bind to know the correct spot to stand on.

Gating to your bind will body block others out of the spot. So you wait till its near scout time and gate, effectively pushing those w/o a bind out of the location.

Kagey · #4 12-14-2016, 01:06 PM

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All good advice and this should be bare minimum for anyone attempting scout. You dont NEED to be able to bind to know the correct spot to stand on. Just use /loc and geographical markers to determine heading and make sure you have your trade windows aligned correctly. Again though, wont help you when up against a macro-clicker.

Without a doubt, a lot of people do get scout in a legitimate way and its not hard if there is no macro-clicker present. Lots of people who come to scout to do the turnin have no clue about what to do. You can even trick clueless people into standing at the wrong spot, quite hilarious. Doesnt change anything that has been said about macro-clickers.

Debating with you is like debating God with a Christian.
You view is if a macro clicker is there no one will beat him. And if someone else actually does win, it's cause the macro clicker isn't there.

Dreenk317 · #5 12-14-2016, 01:23 PM

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Debating with you is like debating God with a Christian.
You view is if a macro clicker is there no one will beat him. And if someone else actually does win, it's cause the macro clicker isn't there.

His view is more of "if I didn't win it's because a macro clicker was there". Why can't someone just be first? Why can't people accept that someone might have beat them without cheating?

Leiker · #6 12-14-2016, 01:47 PM

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His view is more of "if I didn't win it's because a macro clicker was there". Why can't someone just be first? Why can't people accept that someone might have beat them without cheating?

Nice strawman, but this is not what I am saying at all.
Please see Lammys comment above.

I never said that macro-clickers are present at every scout. All I am saying is that macro clicking gives an unfair advantage and that it should be sanctioned, nothing more, nothing less. Its like having a 100m race with one guy starting 30m ahead of the other guy. It does not mean that the first guy cannot win, just that the second guy has a significant advantage.

The fact that you can beat a macro clicker does not mean that it does not give an unfair advantage.

Ravager · #7 12-13-2016, 01:25 PM

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After winning 3 in a row, the salty tells were pretty good; I even made some streamer sperg out. I handed broken discs to guildies. 52ms, spamming trade bound on the spawn spot facing a certain direction. Isn't hard. Isn't fun either.
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This is the problem with the server. People do not fun things for imaginary rewards which escalates to other people doing even less fun things for the same imaginary rewards.

This game is playable without a Bracer of Benevolence. Velious was beat with Kunark gear. People shouldn't be losing their shit over inconsequential things.

Should just drop the drama and rotate everything, but since people can't share, just let the babies have their bottle and have fun raiding Velk's, Siren's Grotto and other enjoyable content that the BiS nerds won't touch.

Lorglath84 · #8 12-13-2016, 02:41 PM

What are the rules regarding the scout? If you turn in the tools, you have 20 minutes to pull the captain, but once you pull him you can kite around as long as needed until your force to kill arrives?

Leiker · #9 12-13-2016, 02:59 PM

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What are the rules regarding the scout? If you turn in the tools, you have 20 minutes to pull the captain, but once you pull him you can kite around as long as needed until your force to kill arrives?

Correct

A bunch of FoH'ers were even DT'ed the other day for tryin to steal someone elses scout if I recall.

khandman · #10 12-13-2016, 02:53 PM

I've never liked the scout hand in because of the way it is handled. So I doubt I will ever get a bracer upgrade as I don't roll on the disc unless I am handing in the tools 'making an effort' and not just showing up for free stuff.

Crap camp.

On a side but kinda related note. Once the server has achieved it's 'classic' goal, and is ready for custom content. Introduce flags. Once you've done the quest, you are flagged and unable to do it again, if it is not designed to be repeatable. Thus NPC's will not respond to you due to the flag, and maybe even not entertain handin's conducted under MQ conditions. You'r MQ profit is 'gobbled' up.

Anyways [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] there are other ways to enjoy the game than sitting at a single spot getting a cold arse.