Can the "list holder" at AC OOT camp remove people for no reason?

[katrik]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't actually true.... Only the person currently holding the camp has to maintain physical presence at that camp. And he can pass it to whoever he wants, even someone twenty zones away. As long as he maintains his physical presence at said camp until said person gets there. Doesn't matter how long you've been sitting next to him. That's how the camp rules work here as far as I've interpreted them.

If the person he chooses to surrender the camp to does not have a physical presence at the camp, they forfeit the camp. It's whoever has been sitting there the longest waiting.

[fan D]

dear OP

pls take this up with the local authorities and inform the judge

iirc the rules of the jboot waitlist in 2016 are not admissable in court

[fan D]

don't think ive ever been as ashamed to have played everquest and this server until now

many people in this thread need to have their reproductive organs removed and eat an ass kicking irl
eg. Mr-B, Lhancelot, Valakut, Naethyn, Coki

i don't even know what to say to you people, clearly your parents have failed you in a tremendous fashion

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by fan D [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

don't think ive ever been as ashamed to have played everquest and this server until now

many people in this thread need to have their reproductive organs removed and eat an ass kicking irl
eg. Mr-B, Lhancelot, Valakut, Naethyn, Coki

i don't even know what to say to you people, clearly your parents have failed you in a tremendous fashion

Love you too, Fandy.

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by katrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the person he chooses to surrender the camp to does not have a physical presence at the camp, they forfeit the camp. It's whoever has been sitting there the longest waiting.

You missed the part where I said "as long as they wait for said person to get to the camp (paraphrasing)". It's up to the person holding the camp, period. As long as the person they pass it too is at the camp, that's that. They can't tell you to just wait and give the camp to someone that's on there way, that's true. But if they hold camp till that person shows..... Then ya.

[Strana]

Here is quote to Play Nice Policy.
"A CSR's ruling may be different than previous rulings based on any number of circumstances, including (but not limited to) players involved and their history, behavior / attitude of the players, and facts gathered by the CSR."

And here is a old post explaining what many in thread have stated.
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...19&postcount=9

[Zemus]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You missed the part where I said "as long as they wait for said person to get to the camp (paraphrasing)". It's up to the person holding the camp, period. As long as the person they pass it too is at the camp, that's that. They can't tell you to just wait and give the camp to someone that's on there way, that's true. But if they hold camp till that person shows..... Then ya.

If the person camping the AC gets the lore item there needs to be someone present to pass it to.

[Zemus]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You missed the part where I said "as long as they wait for said person to get to the camp (paraphrasing)". It's up to the person holding the camp, period. As long as the person they pass it too is at the camp, that's that. They can't tell you to just wait and give the camp to someone that's on there way, that's true. But if they hold camp till that person shows..... Then ya.

If the ph pops and the person they want to pass it to is not there, the person standing there wanting the camp can take it.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your first problem here is you are assuming there are "rules" concerning "lists" at a camp, and the only rules for lists are the ones made by the players.

I am pretty sure if you create a petition asking a GM about rules to a list, they are going to either ignore the petition or tell you that there are no such rules to lists that players make, only the server rules of engagement and of camps which have nothing to do with player made lists.

You'd be wrong. There does not have to be a full list, but if someone is next, you have to honor that. As Valakut and Cecily say below:

Originally Posted by Valakut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In regards to the list, what I've seen is even though GMs ignore lists there has been past rulings where the camp holder must declare who is next. If that player who was originally declared as next is not present after the person gets the AC to spawn since they must pass the lore item camp, then it'll probably result in a ugly FTE firing squad in which having fraps handy would help your case.

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there's no players in the zone, there's no list. And lists are really only one person long, whoever is next. Guess who that is? Definitely not the guy 20 zones over on his alt. I give my camps to people who stay in zone waiting patiently, next to me.

Next,

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't actually true.... Only the person currently holding the camp has to maintain physical presence at that camp. And he can pass it to whoever he wants, even someone twenty zones away. As long as he maintains his physical presence at said camp until said person gets there. Doesn't matter how long you've been sitting next to him. That's how the camp rules work here as far as I've interpreted them.

It is true. If you ask if there's a list, and the camp-holder says no, then you ask to be next, you just created the list and made yourself next. He cannot pass it to anyone he wants. If he did have someone next, he has to tell you who they are.

[Xaanka]

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