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Old 07-20-2016, 05:01 PM
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EQ Pallys don't have a bubble and a hearthstone.
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:27 PM
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TL;DR most of the thread,

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Old 07-20-2016, 05:32 PM
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Soloability vs. desirability in a group is a big factor. A group only needs one tank and adding a second provides very little benefit unless that tank can contribute good damage (like Warriors and Monks can).

So if you're playing a Paladin and the group is full it'd be nice if you could solo a bit while you wait but Paladins are slow and boring solo. It's certainly possible but it gets difficult as you rise in levels since you're essentially allowing an unslowed mob to beat the crap out of you and then healing up afterwards. You never really take control of the fight with slows like a Shaman or charms like an Enchanter. You just go toe to toe or maybe do root jousting at most. You win by attrition and then slowly heal yourself back to full before starting again. Not as bad solo as say a Warrior or a Rogue but not even close to what a Necro, Chanter, Shaman, Druid, etc. can do.

This combination of very specific group role that is often filled and lack of enjoyable solo experience is what I think makes Paladin (and to a lesser extent Rangers and Shadowknights) very unpopular.
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Old 07-20-2016, 07:07 PM
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A good Paladin tank has a similar effect on a group to that of a good Bard: everything just runs much more smoothly and safely. From a group tanking perspective, they are honestly borderline overpowered compared to SKs and Warriors. In that limited niche, they are godlike in their power. A Paladin tank really shines while dungeon leveling through the 40s and 50s. It's unfortunate that most people have never experienced what the class is capable of in skilled hands. It's akin to the difference between a very skilled Enchanter who can balance charming, slowing, buffing and mezzing without a hitch and one who just sits around tossing out Clarity. Paladins have so much potential that goes unrecognized. They deserve more dedicated and skilled players to main the class.
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Old 07-21-2016, 06:07 AM
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Haters gonna hate but fact is Pint is a pally and Tanked Gozzrem a ToV dragon just fine You're Welcome
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:47 AM
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Haters gonna hate but fact is Pint is a pally and Tanked Gozzrem a ToV dragon just fine You're Welcome
And you cant slow that one! Go Pint!
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:52 AM
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Pally threads just like ranjur threads. Can defend em and write novels about their skills all you like, by the end of the day it's still a gimped warrior/cleric. Class has no role that other classes don't do way better.

Until AAs hybrids are just bad.
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:56 AM
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We have no active Paladins or Rangers in our guild on red, and we're clearing raid content. Paladin/Ranger gear rots 99% of the time unless someone swaps to a level 47 alt to grab it.

Sad. If someone really wants to play a Pally on p99, they should roll it on red.
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:11 PM
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I acquired more Paladin gear today and I am pretty excited about it

cant wait to play around with it next week if I find a chance to log him in lol
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Old 07-21-2016, 10:59 PM
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Pally is super fun on Red.
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