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View Poll Results: Which conspiracy theory most preoccupies your mind?
Aria 51 / UFO's / Roswell 2 8.00%
Chemtrails / Weather Wars / Unidentified atmospheric sounds 1 4.00%
JFK Assassination / Hitler lived / Elvis faked death 2 8.00%
Illuminati / NWO / Various Secret Societies of world domination 9 36.00%
Fake Moon Landing / Flat Earth / Nibiru 3 12.00%
Atlantis / Sky Portals / Secret advanced space program 1 4.00%
AIDS created / Vaccinations / Human DNA tampering (e.g GMO's) 1 4.00%
Mind Control / Lizard People / Hidden implants 1 4.00%
Clinton Body Count / 0bama birth cert / Benghazi 1 4.00%
Bush took down Towers / Holographic planes / Tower #7 4 16.00%
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Old 05-17-2016, 08:46 PM
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And there is your answer, it wasn't just jews. The actual holocaust encompasses many peoples (some say up to 5 million others, but at least a couple mil). Hitler was driven by Darwinian theory, that of natural selection and his attempt to help it along. And in that to fit his Aryan cult/occult views stemming from the Atlanteans and Zoroastrians that he felt to be a part of. His obsession was driven into Occult beliefs where he sought help to reach his goals.

Many that fell to the holocaust were not just jews, but Soviet POW's, Poles, Ukrainians and Belorussians that were not jews. Also political prisoners and a wide variety of others. Hitler was also a splendid record keeper btw.

I tend to rely heavily on the power of witness, especially when it comes to any conspiracy theory. That and official documents secondly. And in this I have concluded such a theory is wholly bogus on every level.

As for the international question of illegality, it makes no difference to me nor to the issue, at least from an American perspective (still somewhat free country, sort of). And really, if you look closely, to me it seems apparent that the true intent of eliminating debate on the topic is to remove it entirely from public thought. That is not necessarily a good thing though, as those that do not learn from history tend to repeat history.

Don't think that such debate is always banned/illegal to simply favor the current historical trend, but it stifles both side of the debate. Once both sides are removed from public discussion, things forgotten, history becomes a shell and it can proceed to repeat.

I blame the NWO hehe. My view is primarily Unified Conspiracy Theory. All roads lead to secret societies, and some not so secret. Not EVERY conspiracy (there are very many, some true but many not), but a many are a part of an overall herding to a specific focal point. Likely most people that voted for the leading poll choice are such, unified theory. And I would say from that prospective, my own personal guess, it is illegal to discuss such things in those countries as they move to hit the "reset button" (e.g. Hillary's Russian reset button) and one day revive another holocaust, maybe one day soon.
Yeah I used to believe all of that same garbage too man. Then I found out about things like the Gleiwitz incident, fire bombing of Dresden, the Transfer Agreement, the Hindu, Muslim, North African, Russian, Polish and other soldiers who fought with the Nazis , the Jew Nazis, the French Nazis ,Hitlers driver was Jewish and awarded honorary Aryan status.

You believe in the NWO and think they manipulate world events, economic disasters and wars but they just all happened to be the good guys during WW2? I dont think Hitler was some saint I just think he represented everything they hate. He was an ultra nationalist and was throwing off their debt system. The French knew the Germans were arming and did nothing to stop them. To make matters worse all that came from ww2 was a Zionist state , 100 million + deaths from communism , the national security state, and lead the way for the United Nations/Global Governance. What family basically owns Israel? Wake up.
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hitler also survived to live on in south america in a palace also... there was some AnE history channel thing about "Finding Hitler" they pretty conclusively figured he didn't die and ended up leaving europe.
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hitler also survived to live on in south america in a palace also... there was some AnE history channel thing about "Finding Hitler" they pretty conclusively figured he didn't die and ended up leaving europe.
Yeah that Hearst family loves their Anti-Nazi propaganda. I believe he escaped as well but I find it funny that the only history on the History channel outside of rednecks and junk is always about WW2.
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Yeah I used to believe all of that same garbage too man.
I doubt it. You're talking about political views and such. I'm speaking from the history of world religions, ancient belief systems, and modern philosophies. Hitler was very much involved in that, as many others even today are as such; as ancient writings are very well likely held by secret societies in archives. The individual is only a participant, and sometimes unknowingly but propelled by others to a directed path.

That's why like I say I see strong proof in tower#7 but I am not sure if Bush was the culprit. Even if he did himself do it, it wasn't his idea, but that of others. But then in the Bush family disclosures, it fits well within it all, as so do the leaders of many other nations.

A carrot dangles in front of them, an old carrot at that, having been passed down generation to generation. And you know the famous movie quote "there can be only one". They all want to be that one, be it individually or as a network and share. But they are all fooled.
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Yeah that Hearst family loves their Anti-Nazi propaganda. I believe he escaped as well but I find it funny that the only history on the History channel outside of rednecks and junk is always about WW2.
Ohhh I actually agree with you on this lol.

And I found your other post pretty interesting too. Taking it with a grain of salt. But I can see were your coming from. Not sure if I'm ready to do research on hitler and his honorary Aryan Jewish Driver yet. But... damn sounds interesting.

Not surprised the holocaust encompassed a lot more then just jews I kind of assumed this.

Transsexuals were also murdered en masse

And I have a few good friends that believe between Hitlers relation to the Royal Family of Britain and all that, that that was totally a move to establish isreal. It doesn't make much sense to me though unless they felt absolutely perfectly secure in sacrificing the lives of millions to play a game. Which is pretty fucked and still makes the holocaust a real thing.
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Ohhh I actually agree with you on this lol.

And I found your other post pretty interesting too. Taking it with a grain of salt. But I can see were your coming from. Not sure if I'm ready to do research on hitler and his honorary Aryan Jewish Driver yet. But... damn sounds interesting.

Not surprised the holocaust encompassed a lot more then just jews I kind of assumed this.

Transsexuals were also murdered en masse

And I have a few good friends that believe between Hitlers relation to the Royal Family of Britain and all that, that that was totally a move to establish isreal. It doesn't make much sense to me though unless they felt absolutely perfectly secure in sacrificing the lives of millions to play a game. Which is pretty fucked and still makes the holocaust a real thing.
Meh people can believe what they want. Its not hard especially back then to make people think there was an organized extermination. Then again it could have just been the fact they couldn't supply their prison camps due to non stop bombing campaigns. Then there were outbreaks of things like Typhus which killed a bunch of people which is also a reason for the delousing areas (Zyklon B).

How would the interned Japanese have looked if the war would have made it to the US mainland? Then there is the really obvious stuff like the "human lampshades". There was a documentary on Netflix by the same name recently where they made a big deal about this lampshade supposedly made from the skin of a Jewish prisoner. Cant recall which camp it was (Buchanwald maybe?) but the Allies basically marched all the people from the nearby town and showed them "what the Nazis did" and filmed all of it. Turns out at the end of the documentary the thing was tested and its like cow or goat skin. Total fabrication but somehow it found its way to a table in the middle of Buchanwald just in time to shame walk all of the locals through for their propaganda film.
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I think its more likely that Germany and some of these other places that ban Holocaust denial are just engaging in bad policy. It was probably a handful of politicians that wanted to make hey out of confronting Holocaust denial and being on the right side of history.

It's probably a bit exaggerated but it was horrible enough.

The reason places like France didn't respond to Hitler -- is because they thought he was full of shit at first. They assumed he was playing nationalist politics to consolidate his power and restore a bit of the German ego after WW1.

In WW1, war favored the defense. There were no tanks or planes and motorized vehicles were more rare. When you had artillary and trenches set up, good luck getting past it during WW1.

Generals in Germany -- like France and England -- assumed Hitlers plans would never work well in reality because their experience and education was from WW1. When one general finally confided that the men were unsure -- Hitler acted like Hitler and flipped out and punished the man. Eventually the army fell in line. Germans are damn good at engineering and there planes and tanks ended up tipping the balance in favor of offense.

See tanks can serve to protect infantry from machine guns as they close into the trenches. Planes are also very useful for bombing entrenched positions. Relatively cheap and effective anti-aircraft and anti-tank hardware wasn't yet developed. Motorization was a big deal for the German strategy of "Blitzkrieg" where enemy forces would be pierced and then German forced would penetrate deeply into enemy lines and come back from behind the rest of the enemy force.

A fun way to see how tanks changed things is to just watch the movie Fury (2014). But there was also some political ideas at the time that rendered places like France deeply skeptical there would ever be a major war again. WW1 was such a disaster for all those involved -- it was thought that everyone kind of learned their lesson. Unfortunately Chamberlain has provided a lot of ammunition for war hawks about "appeasement," and how everything is Hitler in 30s and you can never back down from a challenge.
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