Druid/Necro combo, need help with what 3rd rl friend should be

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by fugazi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ranger/Ranger/Ranger or alternatively an erudite paladin for 3rd slot.

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Why you hatin'

[Messianic]

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Why you hatin'

You know, now that I actually compare stats, Erudites aren't terrible clerics or paladins - they're obviously not the best, but...

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I just made a gnome enchanter. Feel free to contact me in-game about grouping. I'd love to have a regular group to level with.

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[icekoffee]

My brother, a buddy and I are going to try:

Me playing necro
Brother playing shaman
And our friend playing a druid

[fischsemmel]

Hey! So long as you buy a shield of the stalwart seas, erudites really DONT have that bad of stats. Dwarves just set the expectations super high because their stats are abnormally good for a paladin compared to the other options.

Eru pal with SOTSS has basically the same (or better) stats as the other paladin races.

And you aren't exactly gimping yourself by using the shield. Does anything even close to as good as that shield come along pre-luclin?

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey! So long as you buy a shield of the stalwart seas, erudites really DONT have that bad of stats. Dwarves just set the expectations super high because their stats are abnormally good for a paladin compared to the other options.

Eru pal with SSOTS has basically the same (or better) stats as the other paladin races.

And you aren't exactly gimping yourself by using the shield. Does anything even close to as good as that shield come along pre-luclin?

It's true, I changed my sig back because I realized they aren't all that bad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Still kind of funny that the shield of prexus is the primary vindicator of an Erudite Paladin race choice ;D

[fischsemmel]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's true, I changed my sig back because I realized they aren't all that bad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Still kind of funny that the shield of prexus is the primary vindicator of an Erudite Paladin race choice ;D

Shield of prexus is the one with like 8 ac and enduring breath, but I know what you meant!

I almost made an erudite paladin as an alt to play with my sham friend until he is high enough to group with my necro, but I was too cheap to cough up a few thousand for the shield. I was quite surprised to learn that it sells for that much, seeing as there are probably more of those shields on the server than there are erudite paladins.

[fischsemmel]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, the more i think about it... pretty much any time i grouped with a druid on my necro we had more fun aggro kiting and ping pong aggro kiting than actually blowing a bunch of fear mana on fear-kiting.

With invoke fear, you get ~7 ticks of fear for 100 mana. Is it really more efficient use of mana to have two people trading off aggro kiting and pingponging than it is to fear for 42 seconds and let both the necro and the druid sit down that whole time?

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shield of prexus is the one with like 8 ac and enduring breath, but I know what you meant!

Oops, gotcha - Shield of the Stalwart Seas. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now that I look at that item, the Ultravision is an incredible benefit too (i dont think paladins have any self-cast vision improvement spells), and the AC is massive, particularly for classic.

And IIRC, shield AC goes above and beyond the soft cap on worn AC...

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With invoke fear, you get ~7 ticks of fear for 100 mana. Is it really more efficient use of mana to have two people trading off aggro kiting and pingponging than it is to fear for 42 seconds and let both the necro and the druid sit down that whole time?

I agree, and Fear/root spells tend to last their full duration on mobs 2 or more levels below you (i've had weird luck on 1-level below mobs and even worse luck with even cons) in my experience, and you can usually med back more mana than the spell cost in that time. I usually time my fears/roots right at the end of the typical duration and try to catch right as it wears off...