Police Officers II

[Rangerboy]

@ Harrison. /agree. Police arent out to get you quido.

[quido]

Originally Posted by Rangerboy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@ Harrison. /agree. Police arent out to get you quido.

That's not what I'm saying. I think most cops want to to good and I appreciate that, I just think most of them also get a genuine high from their authority and consequently abuse it. Most of America has the belief that cops (amongst others) are beyond reproach; this is absurd. My stepbrother is a cop in a really scuzzy city (Muskegon, Michigan) and while he seems to be a really decent guy he has also told me some horror stories about cops crossing the line. It happens a lot more than you think, just usually those who fall victim to these asshole cops have no real path of recourse.

[Swishahouse]

these motherfuckers busted my ass right outside of everest college! i was tryin to attend classes before my minimum wage job and after my minimum wage job and they scrolled up and popped trunk cuz of my do-rag and a lil bag of streebo! now they got me on 4 years papers for bein black. man fuck yall...

[Aba to the cab]

The metro police in my area do some pretty shady shit, such as vehicular man-slaughter because they're drinking and speeding on the job. Or showing up 30 minutes after a group of robbers shot up a neighborhood then failed to investigate the scene and some kid bled to death (the officers later tried to cover it up)

But I can't hate em, cause when you step out of the lower-middle class area into the thriving cultural center known as Broad Ripple the police don't fuck with you.

On 33rd and Washington which is a relatively poor neighborhood they'll jack your shit so quick if you got a lil alcohol on your breath or are looking suspicious, they'll pop 4-5 squad cars on you

But on 64th and College the heart of hipster city you can walk out of the bar there with an open container look over at a police officer and commit public urination without any repercussion, as the business's and community in that area pay the police to not fuck with their patrons and cause drama, as cracking down on public intox in the B-ripp area would slow business down 10 fold.

[Aba to the cab]

The reason there are so many bad cops out there is due to improper training, they'll take anyone who can pass the PT segment of their recruitment phase. They're normal, average, everyday people that are indoctrinated to be "reactionary" and are held less accountable if something goes wrong.

If the average police officer fucks up he isn't liable the department is, they settle a lawsuit and put the officer on suspension or transfer him out, he will never be fully accountable for any actions he does while on-duty which opens up the floodgates for several acts of corruption and an authoritative demeanor.

I think the recruitment process should be more exclusive and that each department should be required to have community liaisons to establish their own rulesets and regulations within each jurisdiction, with the ability to garnish wages, suspend, and remove officers that don't behave as expected thus allowing high levels of transparency within the dept and community in question.

[xshayla701]

The important parts:

Originally Posted by Aba to the cab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason there are so many bad cops out there is due to improper training, they'll take anyone who can pass the PT segment of their recruitment phase. They're normal, average, everyday people that are indoctrinated to be "reactionary" and are held less accountable if something goes wrong.

Originally Posted by Aba to the cab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think of it this way, a majority of any force especially a small town force is composed of people who skid by in high school with a D/C average, who prior to being on the force never held any weight intellectually nor physically and now they're given full authority over the community in question.

trulyfe, although by my standards the "normal, average" person doesn't make C-D averages in HS. regardless, why isn't atleast a bachelors degree required?

[Aba to the cab]

Originally Posted by xshayla701 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The important parts:
trulyfe, although by my standards the "normal, average" person doesn't make C-D averages in HS. regardless, why isn't atleast a bachelors degree required?

They do give courses in Law enforcement, criminology, and homeland security at most colleges, but the people that major in those subjects don't apply for patrolman or traffic cop. They mostly go to work in crime labs, state offices, and or use the degree as leverage to apply for law school.

[Aba to the cab]

At the least the credentials for applying to be a patrolman

• Two-year degree from an accredited university
• maintain a 3.0 GPA or higher during those two-years
• 1-year observational externship at a local jail as a C/O
• completely free of misdemeanors and felonies including juvenile record
• Ability to pass yearly classes involving race relations, ethics, and law
• strenuous psychological testing by THREE third-party sources
• Bi-monthly board reviews with 100% transparency

Upon hiring you must sign a contract for weekly urine screens testing for alcohol and drugs.

Another thing they should do is take away, take-home squad cars and those other bullshit benefits at the cost of taxpayers. City vehicles are city property not the officers personal 7-11 munchies cruiser, so they may only use the squad-car while on duty.

[Heartbeats]

Anyone who has seen the movie Cocaine Cowboys, they talk about bringing blow into Florida in the 1970's, and having cops actually transport the coke in squad cars. It's been awhile since I've seen it, but one of the guys who was overseeing transport into the country mentioned that he was a 20something kid making $50k/week, while the salary for a police officer in Florida at that time was $15k/year. Basically, being a cop was and still is a shit job that doesn't pay well enough. Because the pay sucks, especially given the line of work, where you could be putting your life on the line at any given moment, anyone who is qualified (i.e. intelligent, with a decent moral compass) would rather work somewhere else. So, the qualifications have to be lowered, and you attract a bunch of retarded scum who can't get a better job, and are more than willing to abuse their position of authority to get more than just their trash salary out of it. There's alot more to be said, but I have to go get my cookies out of the oven and go to this Christmas party, so I'll leave that for later.

[Aba to the cab]

Originally Posted by Heartbeats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone who has seen the movie Cocaine Cowboys, they talk about bringing blow into Florida in the 1970's, and having cops actually transport the coke in squad cars. It's been awhile since I've seen it, but one of the guys who was overseeing transport into the country mentioned that he was a 20something kid making $50k/week, while the salary for a police officer in Florida at that time was $15k/year. Basically, being a cop was and still is a shit job that doesn't pay well enough. Because the pay sucks, especially given the line of work, where you could be putting your life on the line at any given moment, anyone who is qualified (i.e. intelligent, with a decent moral compass) would rather work somewhere else. So, the qualifications have to be lowered, and you attract a bunch of retarded scum who can't get a better job, and are more than willing to abuse their position of authority to get more than just their trash salary out of it. There's alot more to be said, but I have to go get my cookies out of the oven and go to this Christmas party, so I'll leave that for later.

The B-ripple police department pays it's officers 125k a year, where Hasbinbad lives they are paid upwards of 200k a year... Plus they get to take their squad cars home and milk the taxpayers for free gas, and use their badge to get free food, discounts, free rent at upscale apartments etc.

Add all those benefits into their gross pay they're probably making 350k a year, that's more than Ph.D level engineers.

Which is why corruption is so high and cover-ups are common place, if you're getting $200,000 a year with free gas and free food with nothing more than a GED and a small military record you're set for life especially when you retire and milk in HUGE benefits. Most police officers in that bracket know if they were fired and retained the stigma of being a "bad cop" the best job they can get with those credentials is working summer construction for a whopping $11 p/h