New ToV Racing Rules

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Notice how he didn't answer the question. What a lowlife.

Your question was invalidated when you inferred this was an anon account. The plebs have been released now, RnF is fair game now sir

[Maner]

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Originally Posted by Pint View Post
You guys were given a full hour to prepare and execute your attempts by the staff and you're already asking for more
No one is asking for more here actually. Quite a few of us agree that the *original rule* made was very simple:

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All Temple of Veeshan raid targets as well as King Tormax / Statue, are now foot race FTEs from the zone lines. If your guild gets FTE on a target, then your guild will be given a 60minute grace period to engage and kill the mob, allowing them a fair and legitimate chance at that target. A guild may not FTE any other raid target until their FTE’d target is either Dead, or the 60 minutes is up.
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We are technically asking for less here. We don't like the amendments that were added after the fact. They took an extremely simple and basic concept and opened up the door for rule lawyering and confusion.

But until Sirken clarifies some of the amendments for us, it is what it is.

ToV is still a cluster. When Guild C accidentally trains Aftermath as you are fighting Mob X, we are saying that Aftermath should still be entitled to Mob X. However, with your own definition of the rule, Aftermath wiped and the mob is now FFA. You will lose mob X to guilds A, B, or D. It doesn't matter that you got trained by Guild C, you can petition the other guild later. It won't help you with Mob X loot, which will go legally to A B or D. You just now lost Mob X because you wiped, plain and simple. Mob X is now FFA.

Now -- if you had 60 minutes for Mob X -- you wouldn't even need to petition anyone. You could even laugh about getting trained instead of raging. Mob X is still yours. You just rezz up and do it again.


~Phiren
Azure Guard"

I mean look at the blatant stupidity here. the original rule regarding the run ups was 60min or 1 attempt, but apparently casual guilds don't have to keep up to speed on the raid rules, as it's obviously easier to misconstrue them and say you musunderstood later. What hardcore guild who currently farm ntov ever had unlimited wipes on things in order to learn? We had 1 attempt and if you wiped the other guild sniped the dragon as it paths back. Why should you get to try a dragon over and over again for an hour? Because that is 3-4 attempts if you aren't completely horrible. coming up with all these excuses as to why you don't want to battle the way TOV used to be is just excuses. It's called life, you get what you put in and the casual guilds obviously aren't willing to put forth the effort but still demand to get rewarded.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your question was invalidated...

Under what rule and what subsection?

[Sodors Finest Poster]

OBJECTION!

[Gimp]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Under what rule and what subsection?

Rule 7, Article B, Section 1.2

Keep up.

[FatMice]

Swish why do you even care? The guy is not in BDA. Now take a deep breath.

[Swish]

Now the Aftermath guys are in defending the hardcore whiner... no getting away from the circlejerks on this server is there?

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[Skew]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

someone's mad

After my fellow guildies stomped everyone on the last repop?

You've been mad since forever mate.

[FatMice]

Swish you should see the FTE Race Start line... Dead flaky skin, and excess neck hair that fell on the ground left by all the racers would make you race just to the exit pad.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Posting here under an anon account so nobody knows who I am.

The fundamental difference between play styles is always going to be a problem in North ToV. Casuals don't want the hardcores to try so hard while the hardcores wonder why Casuals are trying to impose socialism on the raid scene. It doesn't matter what the rules are or ever become....the two sides are never going to agree on it.

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now the Aftermath guys are in defending the hardcore whiner... no getting away from the circlejerks on this server is there?

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Should probably tell what guild I am in.