a few unofficial rules for ip exemption - Page 5

Cyrius · #1 12-11-2010, 01:10 PM

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Why is it a terrible idea? The only reason they don't allow dual boxing is because it eats up bandwidth and bandwidth costs money. This is basic math and by donating would cover the cost for bandwidth. It would keep it simple and this issue would not be policed so much.

You are wrong, the reason is because Nilbog says so. He wants to foster a community, wich obviously worked. If everyone was allowed to multibox here, do you realy think the population would be as high as it is now? Maybe, but not with real players, but 200 people 4+ boxing. Is has absolutely nothing to do with bandwith or server capacity.

Donations are called donations for a reason. They do not entitle you to anything, they do not make you "special". Donations are used to keep the server up and running, to pay for the monthy hosting fees and the hardware. All in all donations enable you to play here the way you do. It is a priviledge to work on this server, and it is a priviledge to play on this server. It is in no way a "birth right" for everyone.

Yak · #2 12-11-2010, 01:14 PM

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You are wrong, the reason is because Nilbog says so. He wants to foster a community, wich obviously worked. If everyone was allowed to multibox here, do you realy think the population would be as high as it is now? Maybe, but not with real players, but 200 people 4+ boxing. Is has absolutely nothing to do with bandwith or server capacity.

Donations are called donations for a reason. They do not entitle you to anything, they do not make you "special". Donations are used to keep the server up and running, to pay for the monthy hosting fees and the hardware. All in all donations enable you to play here the way you do. It is a priviledge to work on this server, and it is a priviledge to play on this server. It is in no way a "birth right" for everyone.

I thought it was a bandwidth issue costing more money? It it just the fact to remain true to classic spirit of not having any unfair advantage? I thought that I read on the forums it was a bandwidth issue. Could you please explain then why is multi-boxing not allowed and is it worth all this trouble? I wasn't implying that a donation entitles you to anything. I was simply implying that if multi-boxing it costing the hosting more money, would be away around it is all.

Timzilla · #3 12-11-2010, 12:49 PM

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The problem is that it's all about perception. I understand that the GM's have their hands full but there has to be some guidelines or a warning. However, this is part of being responsible as well. Technically they don't have to do anything. However, I feel that ti would be a curious thing to do. They need to define what they consider to be dual boxing. Let's say you are grouping with the wife and a family emergency comes up and one of you has to deal with you child. One goes AFK for 30 mins or whatever. Are you telling me that you would get fucking banned for that. This would not be common but possible. It would be very helpful if the GM's could spend a few minutes and make a sticky section on this and don't just strike the ban hammer with out looking into it. Hey, other then that I am just great full to have this server to play on. However, I am sick of rehashing this same topic over and over again. It seems to be one of those topics that won't die on these forums until something is done about it.

Another easy way to fix it would be to just offer IP exceptions to people who make donations, why not? Problem solved.

How is yor scenario confusing in the least bit? Does the wife not know there's a camp/quit button?

Yak · #4 12-11-2010, 01:08 PM

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How is yor scenario confusing in the least bit? Does the wife not know there's a camp/quit button?

It is only confusing to a retard who don't have a family. I was just stating this as an example. I said emergency. In an emergency you don't have that kind of time.

Cyrius · #5 12-11-2010, 01:11 PM

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It is only confusing to a retard who don't have a family. I was just stating this as an example. I said emergency. In an emergency you don't have that kind of time.

So you sit so far away from your wifes computer that you can not stop playing for 5 seconds and type /camp or /exit on her computer when an "emergency" comes up that only your wife has to attend?

rioisk2 · #6 12-11-2010, 01:32 PM

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So you sit so far away from your wifes computer that you can not stop playing for 5 seconds and type /camp or /exit on her computer when an "emergency" comes up that only your wife has to attend?

Technically this is against the rules per "one client per person".

The rules need to be more specific to reflect these things.

YendorLootmonkey · #7 12-11-2010, 12:53 PM

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Let's say you are grouping with the wife and a family emergency comes up and one of you has to deal with you child. One goes AFK for 30 mins or whatever. Are you telling me that you would get fucking banned for that.

"I have to go AFK 30 mins to spank our child."

"Okay, well, camp out here... we do have an IP exemption, you know. It'll look like we're multi-boxing."

"But we're totally not multi-boxing. The GMs should be able to see that."

"Yeah, they can't tell the difference... two people in close proximity, both characters on the same IP address, one not moving... would look pretty fishy to everyone. And I'm sure actual multi-boxers use the "my wife had to go AFK to beat our kids" all the time. So just log out."

"Thanks, honey... I understand now! You saved us from getting banned!"

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Swishahouse · #8 12-11-2010, 12:34 PM

What I will never understand every time one of those bitch ass posts happen is why people assume these devs HAVE to be FAIR AND CORRECT all the time. Were just leeching off their time and effort 99% of users have never submitted a bug report or done anything to enhance the project even in the smallest of ways. If they want to ban you for any reason you're simply torched! Coming on these Rogean Uthboards and going turbo qq over it is definitely not going to help your cause at all. In fact, you'll get trolled out, butthurt and ZOMGZ still banned!

Swishahouse · #9 12-11-2010, 12:37 PM

BTW I know for a fact that when the GMs do check up on people with IP exemptions they do observe for a time before making a decision about whether or not the player was infact boxing.

Crone · #10 12-11-2010, 01:18 PM

I can see both sides of this arguement, and it's unfortunate that the rules have to be what they are, because there is absolutely no way to prove whether or not this person was 2boxing or not, and with a rule like that you have to side with yes, he was. Ban. Too many have tried to lie and scheme their way out of bans for the server staff to act any differently.

One question I do have though is that I've gone afk following a friend of mine before while he experienced. IP exemptions were not involved, but I went to watch a movie, and he kept playing with me on follow.

Is this allowed? I figured it would be, because 2 different people, but only 1 is doing any work, but there isn't an IP exemption.

Thank you for any clarification.