Conservatism vs Progressivism

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

reading correspondence and data mining for political oppression, another great conservative policy ladies and gentlemen!

Thanks for adding to the list Spyder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought the NSA or at least it's rapid expansion was as much Clinton's baby as it was GWBs

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought the NSA was Clinton's baby

no way doggie, it's actually an agency created at the beginning of the cold war.

the Patriot Act, that gave them freedom to do whatever they wanted no matter how unconstitutional was...

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George W Bush! A CONSERVATIVE incase you were wondering...

NEXT!

[Blitzers]

[QUOTE=iruinedyourday;2174500]If this was the way our government worked, you'd be spending 110% of your paycheck for just using the fucking the corporate owned road idiot.

Wrong again, I would only be paying for the ROADS I used not the roads u ride the bus on to pickup your welfare check. The price of that road would be much lower because the contract would have been negotiated to save money not to fulfill a politicians favor to some Union thugs.

incorrect, it is conservative idiot politicians that making those mistakes using our military.

Once again those politicians were NOT conservatives they were big government progressives ie. Medicare part B


I am not a coward (like you appear to be) afraid of the conservative military created ISIS that has no threat to any american lives outside of the military we send there to create them.[/QUOTE

ISIS was created by Obama to lead a proxy war against Assad in Syria. Yes u are a coward who hides behind the race card every chance u get.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ISIS was created by Obama to lead a proxy war against Assad in Syria. Yes u are a coward who hides behind the race card every chance u get.

Nobodys going to argue that obama's military spending and action in the middle east is less than could be desired.

However, the threat of ISIS was created by the Iraqi coalition authority, which ousted the entire government of Iraq. It was when 30,000 individuals who are part of the Iraqi military were forced out. They had no employment, they had no income, yet they were left with access to all the same arms and weapons.

No sir, ISIS is very much a conservative created debacle.

[Filthy_Pagan]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course people in jail often commit crimes to get there, you so dumb to think progressives think everyone in there is innocent?

a progressive looks at the way people in poor parts of the country are behaving - lets take selling crack for example.

well, for one putting people in jail for selling crack, does nothing to stop people from selling it. Infact it increases the amount of crime in the areas where people sell it. Hence some of the other inmates being jailed, for:



A progressive looks at why are people in this neighborhood selling crack, is it because they are poor and miserable and human, (don't forget ALL humans do drugs) crack is just the cheapest one available?

If we legalize drug use and provide health care for anyone, like in any developed nation we reduce crime, reduce addiction, reduce usage.

who pays for it?

people likely outside of your tax bracket, so not you.

who saves money?

you do, because quality of life increases and cost of living well goes down. Less cost for insurance , less cost for health care, less cost for education.

taking care of your neighbor means you have good neighbors, treating your neighbor like shit, means they have a shitty neighbor.

Now all that aside, how come you don't hear any stores from filthy pagan about all the white people who do coke, which is the same fucking drug as crack.

OH YEA cus the CONSERVATIVE run system was attempting to disenfranchise black voters by sending them to jail thereby revoking their ability to vote.

The first thing i noticed is that you immediately shed your claims of a racist system and gave credit where credit was due- they target the poor. Not a specific ethnic group.

Now. Why would someone have to sell crack? Because they're unwilling to act like civilized human beings and assimilate into modern culture by getting an actual job. Why? because of their own racist beliefs. "Whitey caused this, whitey did that, im not gonna play into that system. They OWE me because of historical events I never experienced personally, but those people looked like me so im entitled." Pretty soon they realize that EBT doesnt really buy enough food to sustain life, so they need additional income, and jordans are expensive.

You didnt hear me mentioning whites doing coke (there were a couple in jail for that reason) because we weren't talking about that. Notice how IRYD tries to deflect accountability when the subject is black and attempts to use the "WELL HE DID IT TOO" kindergarten defense. Classic liberal argument.

Socialism only works when people work and pay taxes. When a good chunk of people see having 6 kids to get a fat welfare check a career path, they arent supporting socialism, therefor it doesnt work.

And if you think that legalizing drugs lowers crime rates, you're terribly mistaken and lack any sort of real knowledge of how the world works. Even in places where drugs are legalized, the illegal drug trade still thrives. I can go to a dozen people right now and get top quality marijuana from people for a LOT less than what dispensaries charge.

You don't have any legitimate arguments, you're simply parroting libcuck rhetoric because that's what your overlords programmed in you while you were being brainwashed.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if you think that legalizing drugs lowers crime rates, you're terribly mistaken and lack any sort of real knowledge of how the world works.

Property crime rates have tripled and violent crime rates have doubled since President Nixon created the Drug Enforcement Agency in 1973 and declared an "all-out global war"to end the "drug menace." The connection is not coincidental.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobodys going to argue that obama's military spending and action in the middle east is less than could be desired.

However, the threat of ISIS was created by the Iraqi coalition authority, which ousted the entire government of Iraq. It was when 30,000 individuals who are part of the Iraqi military were forced out. They had no employment, they had no income, yet they were left with access to all the same arms and weapons.

No sir, ISIS is very much a conservative created debacle.

ISIS didn't exist until 2012, the Iraqi military was ousted back in 06 or earlier. They joined up with Al Qiada and were defeated with the Surge in 07. Obama refused to leave US military in Iraq to keep it secure and not allow an opposition force to rise. Obama neglected Iraq thus leading to the rise of ISIS.

Personally I think we should hVe just colonized Iraq and made it an economic free zone and called it New America. Had this been done instead of nation building we'd been a lot better off.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ISIS didn't exist until 2012, the Iraqi military was ousted back in 06 or earlier. They joined up with Al Qiada and were defeated with the Surge in 07. Obama refused to leave US military in Iraq to keep it secure and not allow an opposition force to rise. Obama neglected Iraq thus leading to the rise of ISIS.

Personally I think we should hVe just colonized Iraq and made it an economic free zone and called it New America. Had this been done instead of nation building we'd been a lot better off.

What apple store is this homeless person posting from I wonder?

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What apple store is this homeless person posting from I wonder?

So your lies are defeated you start name calling very predictable strategy you consistently use.

I agree going into Iraq was dumbass shit but even dumbass' like Hillary voted for it. I would have rather us wiped out the Sauds since that's where the hijackers were from. Bush's 1940's nation building strategy was a ridiculous idea. You can't hand people an instruction manual to freedom and expect them to just figure it out especially when you have a religion that has no tenet of freedom within its structure whatsoever. Unfortunately Bush led the horse to water but he didn't make it drink.

Don't forget the 1999 "Iraqi resolution" plan that Bill Clinton signed to form Regime change in Iraq.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

name me one known failed progressive system.

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The USSR

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Kampuchea

Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

affirmative action

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Gun free zones

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common core

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i pledged allegiance to the state of ISIS