Big Thanks to Cloki from Omni

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Pan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know where this info is coming from, but it may be better than my memory. I was fairly certain that Seekers and L'Malla and HoSS had the ringwar on farm mode with those numbers during the spring/summer prior to SoL. I do recall participating in a number of successful 10s, pre-SoL as a guest of HoSS. Although I have piles of screenshots from that era, I don't have any logs. I apologize if I'm wrong about it and trivialized its difficulty in that era.

Ternada D'spite who was in HoSS was the person who made the post. Was a Cleric in the guild.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Notice the date of that post. October 29th, 2011 was the first time it was completed on Druzzil. December 5th 2000 was the release date of Velious. Yet he claimed 40 did it 4 months in. I mean no offense, but the guy you are praising straight up lied.

When did you get so salty Vianna? I never remembered that about you.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When did you get so salty Vianna? I never remembered that about you.

Not Salty at all. Just providing truth to the discussion. People say many things to win a discussion. As I said I mean no offense.

[Decad]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's just get back to comparing Cloki's post to reality for a second because I think this was missed...

Cloki's post.



Now Reality...




Notice the date of that post. October 29th, 2011 was the first time it was completed on Druzzil. December 5th 2000 was the release date of Velious. Yet he claimed 40 did it 4 months in. I mean no offense, but the guy you are praising straight up lied.

Not here to take sides but the first ring war that was successfully completed wasn't so long either.

It was completed on May 18 2001 on Nameless, which is 5 month 13 days after launch. Check out tig post on this date. Maybe some of the top guilds on other servers finished it even sooner since Tig didn't claim it was a server wide first just a server first

http://legacyofsteel.net/#/archives

[arsenalpow]

And that's back in the day when the majority of players weren't even 60. It's a whole different scenario now. It's absurd to think that the ring war is the last piece of unbeaten content on p99 because players aren't good enough to beat it yet.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Decad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not here to take sides but the first ring war that was successfully completed wasn't so long either.

It was completed on May 18 2001 on Nameless, which is 5 month 13 days after launch. Check out tig post on this date. Maybe some of the top guilds on other servers finished it even sooner since Tig didn't claim it was a server wide first just a server first

http://legacyofsteel.net/#/archives

Server firsts and world firsts are different. The point remains Druzzil the server he claimed was being farmed with 40 in April wasn't. There was no way to do the ring war with 40 4 months into Velious.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Server firsts and world firsts are different. The point remains Druzzil the server he claimed was being farmed with 40 in April wasn't. There was no way to do the ring war with 40 4 months into Velious.

I just don't understand why you are so anxious to crucify the guy as some sort of master of deception when his memory wasn't really that far off.

[Juevento]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't understand why you are so anxious to crucify the guy as some sort of master of deception when his memory wasn't really that far off.

That's how the internet works. You only argue in absolutes and crucify someone when they get small details wrong.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't understand why you are so anxious to crucify the guy as some sort of master of deception when his memory wasn't really that far off.

Who is crucifying ? Just fact checking. I even said Cloki might be a cool guy, but that he was straight lying about the ring war and ~40 people doing it in Velious. He just seems to have an agenda in this situation from what I have read and he lied to prove a point. I was on Druzzil Ro btw. It's why it upset me a little more than it should have I guess.

[Gain]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what exactly is the difference between a server first and a server wide first in regards to EQ during velious era?

Server first means first on the server you played in....server wide first is first before any other server.