PvP today

[georgie]

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[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they were using coth boxes before that too. and our last encounter with them, something like 8 or 9 ch swords. tmo will fight at a disadvantage and tmo will give up the yt to win a fight. we don't play for the scoreboard. you'll never see friends fight like that.

reminds me of last time we showed up to phara dar, instead of staying in the fight longer and possibly winning while eating yellow text, they all zoned out as soon as they were focused

all but two or three of our guys stayed in and ate the death, allowing us to rez them back in instead of being locked out of VP

i don't understand the point in purposely losing the fight just so a 3rd party leaderboard shows that you have one less death?

[syztem]

thats how they operate, a YT against them is like losing everything irl to they score their next hit. They all yt junkies.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uh.
This wasn't directed at you, Tassador, but at Dragonbait.
I need to work on my quote button clicking skills.

I am not convinced it is something you can work on. Some peoples brains just can't learn how to structure-- wait. Fuck the explanation.

Illiterate as fuck confirmed.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

reminds me of last time we showed up to phara dar, instead of staying in the fight longer and possibly winning while eating yellow text, they all zoned out as soon as they were focused

all but two or three of our guys stayed in and ate the death, allowing us to rez them back in instead of being locked out of VP

i don't understand the point in purposely losing the fight just so a 3rd party leaderboard shows that you have one less death?

That is pretty simple actually. Years of losing mobs has conditioned them to except YT advantage as a victory condition. It is one of those weird R99 things where both sides can feel they won the battle, because how they define victory is completely different.

I always thought of EQ mass PVP as objective based though, one of the unique things about non instanced open world PVP content.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is one of those weird R99 things where both sides can feel they won the battle, because how they define victory is completely different.

yes

[Farzo]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is pretty simple actually. Years of losing mobs has conditioned them to except YT advantage as a victory condition. It is one of those weird R99 things where both sides can feel they won the battle, because how they define victory is completely different.

I always thought of EQ mass PVP as objective based though, one of the unique things about non instanced open world PVP content.

Yerp.

Thats what also makes it lame because if one team wins the mob they say won, but if the other team gets more yt; they say they won.

I personally would base mass pvp on who gets the mob (what initiated the mass pvp and brought people together to fight).

EQ is a PvE game; thus a PvP server could be concluded to be a PvEvP version of EQ.

[DRAGONBAIT]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not convinced it is something you can work on. Some peoples brains just can't learn how to structure-- wait. Fuck the explanation.

Illiterate as fuck confirmed.

when u guys wanna say something at me plz try to make urself understanable by someone who is not english or american. I just pointed out that TMO should get tougher and dont accept empires help, what ure saying to me i dont understand. thanks

pd: u cant win a pvp after warmbodying in a raid for 2h, u just cant cos u wont be properly buffed in the right order etc, people just go semi afk on those kind of raids and let buffs go away and just rebuff in a shitty way, then pvp happens and noone is fucking rdy, if u think it doesnt makes a difference.

but then again u can loose the pvp and then grp up with them so is no big problem right? pvp, loose, keep going . yeah? naw

[DRAGONBAIT]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I always thought of EQ mass PVP as objective based though, one of the unique things about non instanced open world PVP content.

its how it is, how the game was made. rest is shit if u want a record go play a shooter and look at ur KDR, hell.

[Farzo]

It also destroyed alot of the fun; people plugging at 90% is a joke to avoid a YT.

That last video Colgate put up was pretty good example.
5 SK's and 5 Wizards fast dpsing easy targets down for yt while everyone else plugs out at 50%+ to avoid been yt'd.

So you end up with one team getting 3 yt's and a mob and the other team 8 yts and no mob but both feel they won.