PvP today

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by yikes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We were all laughing in TS about these before a few (3 empire?) decided to lend a hand. This was pure TMO:

Swathe TMO Axebeard Friends The Wakening Lands XXX November 21 2015 4:30:48 AM
Jjlent TMO Katrasle Friends The Wakening Lands XXX November 21 2015 4:26:38 AM

Don't worry. Some of ya'll got away with you're TLC boxes

they were using coth boxes before that too. and our last encounter with them, something like 8 or 9 ch swords. tmo will fight at a disadvantage and tmo will give up the yt to win a fight. we don't play for the scoreboard. you'll never see friends fight like that.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they were using coth boxes before that too. and our last encounter with them, something like 8 or 9 ch swords. tmo will fight at a disadvantage and tmo will give up the yt to win a fight. we don't play for the scoreboard. you'll never see friends fight like that.

reminds me of last time we showed up to phara dar, instead of staying in the fight longer and possibly winning while eating yellow text, they all zoned out as soon as they were focused

all but two or three of our guys stayed in and ate the death, allowing us to rez them back in instead of being locked out of VP

i don't understand the point in purposely losing the fight just so a 3rd party leaderboard shows that you have one less death?

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

reminds me of last time we showed up to phara dar, instead of staying in the fight longer and possibly winning while eating yellow text, they all zoned out as soon as they were focused

all but two or three of our guys stayed in and ate the death, allowing us to rez them back in instead of being locked out of VP

i don't understand the point in purposely losing the fight just so a 3rd party leaderboard shows that you have one less death?

That is pretty simple actually. Years of losing mobs has conditioned them to except YT advantage as a victory condition. It is one of those weird R99 things where both sides can feel they won the battle, because how they define victory is completely different.

I always thought of EQ mass PVP as objective based though, one of the unique things about non instanced open world PVP content.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is one of those weird R99 things where both sides can feel they won the battle, because how they define victory is completely different.

yes

[Farzo]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is pretty simple actually. Years of losing mobs has conditioned them to except YT advantage as a victory condition. It is one of those weird R99 things where both sides can feel they won the battle, because how they define victory is completely different.

I always thought of EQ mass PVP as objective based though, one of the unique things about non instanced open world PVP content.

Yerp.

Thats what also makes it lame because if one team wins the mob they say won, but if the other team gets more yt; they say they won.

I personally would base mass pvp on who gets the mob (what initiated the mass pvp and brought people together to fight).

EQ is a PvE game; thus a PvP server could be concluded to be a PvEvP version of EQ.

[DRAGONBAIT]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I always thought of EQ mass PVP as objective based though, one of the unique things about non instanced open world PVP content.

its how it is, how the game was made. rest is shit if u want a record go play a shooter and look at ur KDR, hell.

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

reminds me of last time we showed up to phara dar, instead of staying in the fight longer and possibly winning while eating yellow text, they all zoned out as soon as they were focused

all but two or three of our guys stayed in and ate the death, allowing us to rez them back in instead of being locked out of VP

i don't understand the point in purposely losing the fight just so a 3rd party leaderboard shows that you have one less death?

exactly. the point of pvp on this server is to control or deny content. if their force engaged to disrupt your raid and failed at doing so, they've lost. regardless of the fact that their side had less casualties.

[georgie]

....no comment

[syztem]

thats how they operate, a YT against them is like losing everything irl to they score their next hit. They all yt junkies.

[Farzo]

It also destroyed alot of the fun; people plugging at 90% is a joke to avoid a YT.

That last video Colgate put up was pretty good example.
5 SK's and 5 Wizards fast dpsing easy targets down for yt while everyone else plugs out at 50%+ to avoid been yt'd.

So you end up with one team getting 3 yt's and a mob and the other team 8 yts and no mob but both feel they won.