Open petition to reduce variance to +/- 4 hours

[Kileras]

Why would FAT/bda/divinity support this if if it enabled smaller guild like anonymous more of an opportunity? I can't think of any other time (besides the guilds we ally with) people have made decisions that benefitted our progression over them getting more loot. Is this in hopes that rampage cannot go for other mobs outside sleepers? I fail to see how this just doesn't turn the few mobs that are open to us even more contested. 4 hour window sev? Why wouldn't every single guild be there? If something else was in window maybe it would just be an alt army.

More quakes would be nice, really only thing that seems to make guilds go for the highest apple they can pick, leaving the older content to the rest of us. Earthquakes and races are also super fun in comparison to a sock. We are at the end of the timeline, sure more items would be dropping but what's so awful about 1 euro and 1 usa prime time quake a week.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Kileras [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would FAT/bda/divinity support this if if it enabled smaller guild like anonymous more of an opportunity? I can't think of any other time (besides the guilds we ally with) people have made decisions that benefitted our progression over them getting more loot. Is this in hopes that rampage cannot go for other mobs outside sleepers? I fail to see how this just doesn't turn the few mobs that are open to us even more contested. 4 hour window sev? Why wouldn't every single guild be there? If something else was in window maybe it would just be an alt army.

More quakes would be nice, really only thing that seems to make guilds go for the highest apple they can pick, leaving the older content to the rest of us. Earthquakes and races are also super fun in comparison to a sock. We are at the end of the timeline, sure more items would be dropping but what's so awful about 1 euro and 1 usa prime time quake a week.

Well when we had the class R rotation the 3 bigger guilds were definitely taking a hit so the small guilds could progress, and there was the time a few years back when TMO was suspended and BDA left content up and led open raids. TMO also tried to do some endangered species thing, but it was for some non relevant dragons.

Outside of that there hasn't really been much sharing, but it's a top down problem. There's no impetus for Rampage to share unless they're interested in adding you to their numbers / allying. Chopping variance in half helps everyone because it reduces the strain it takes to contest for 16 hours.

[Legday]

If the variance was tightened, after the first server reset (where all of the most desirable targets died within a 2-3 spread), 7 days from that point the larger guilds wouldn't really care about Sev's small window because they would be socking north ToV with dozens of targets in short reach spawning one after another. Even as the windows started to spread out, the RNG gods would have to be cruel over the course of several weeks to seperate Sev's window away from the bigger targets to the point where larger guilds would try to take advantage of the smaller window. A longer variance just accelerates this.

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Kileras [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would FAT/bda/divinity support this if if it enabled smaller guild like anonymous more of an opportunity? I can't think of any other time (besides the guilds we ally with) people have made decisions that benefitted our progression over them getting more loot. Is this in hopes that rampage cannot go for other mobs outside sleepers? I fail to see how this just doesn't turn the few mobs that are open to us even more contested. 4 hour window sev? Why wouldn't every single guild be there? If something else was in window maybe it would just be an alt army.

Exactly this. Window right now is sunday through wednesday for high priority contested targets in velious. Low target velious mobs and all of kunark is open game for anyone not going for high priority mobs. Nobody is decamping for anything during this time. Smaller guilds get stuff.

Halving the variance would shrink that window down, putting those camped out guilds back out into kunark for something to do the rest of the time. This won't help small guilds.

[Legday]

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly this. Window right now is sunday through wednesday for high priority contested targets in velious. Low target velious mobs and all of kunark is open game for anyone not going for high priority mobs. Nobody is decamping for anything during this time. Smaller guilds get stuff.

Halving the variance would shrink that window down, putting those camped out guilds back out into kunark for something to do the rest of the time. This won't help small guilds.

Only if the windows all sat right where they are currently are and Sev's windows sat squarely in a void, but a server reset changes that completely. After a reset Sev wouldn't fall in his own timeframe for a looong time.

[Aviann]

This three guild alliance you guys keep talking about doesn't happen but rarely. Sontalak being the last time in quite a long time.

We don't have any vendetta for cutting Anonymous out of the picture. The reasoning behind what we are doing now is to stop a monopoly that would inevitably push us all into the dirt collectively. Like Arum explained above, when the server is controlled by one guild, things get shitty.

[ManuelThePopStar]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This three guild alliance you guys keep talking about doesn't happen but rarely. Sontalak being the last time in quite a long time.

We don't have any vendetta for cutting Anonymous out of the picture. The reasoning behind what we are doing now is to stop a monopoly that would inevitably push us all into the dirt collectively. Like Arum explained above, when the server is controlled by one guild, things get shitty.

Far as I can recall, for-taken has allied up on multiple fucking GORENAIRES the past month, let alone other mobs.

But hey whatever justification you wanna use pal

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by ManuelThePopStar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Far as I can recall, for-taken has allied up on multiple fucking GORENAIRES the past month, let alone other mobs.

But hey whatever justification you wanna use pal

What? Are you sure you raid?
FAT goes for AoW, CT, maybe soltanak, and maybe tormax.
FA goes wherever Rampage can be found
AT goes for VP

Asgard has gone for 1 Gorenaire ever

Long variance is good, earthquake only system is good. Short is not. If resources of the high level raiders are tied up in high priority targets all the time, other stuff will be open. Some people just don't want to dedicate the time to get stuff, and that is fine. Just don't expect to be rewarded with the best loot in the game either.

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What? Are you sure you raid?
FAT goes for AoW, CT, maybe soltanak, and maybe tormax.
FA goes wherever Rampage can be found
AT goes for VP

Asgard has gone for 1 Gorenaire ever

Long variance is good, earthquake only system is good. Short is not. If resources of the high level raiders are tied up in high priority targets all the time, other stuff will be open. Some people just don't want to dedicate the time to get stuff, and that is fine. Just don't expect to be rewarded with the best loot in the game either.

Just merge already

[Kileras]

I'm pretty sure most of the targets are still highly contested right now. Not tal/fay but most everything else is that we have seen or gone after. I'm fine with that being the case, but you can't say they aren't contested anymore, and it doesn't change the fact that these aren't really targets of interest to anyone because you can get better gear for easier all over the place. Sev/trak/52 Dragons are still highly contested and the few mobs anyone really cares for.


I agree though, if the windows could stay remotely in heavy overlap, it would hopefully make guilds pick and choose targets and other people could get a chance to experience the fun/thrill of doing it with their crew.