8th Ring / Gloridain / Ragetrade

[Pan]

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It looks like the best answer here is to attempt to get all known guilds to ratify an agreement that there will be a /random contest held on-site at Gloridain minus 5 minutes. Then all we can do is name and shame the rogues.

If you win the /random and fail, Orc Chief rights fall to the next high roll until Garadain has died/despawned...

Omni would support this.

And Haynar, if you conflate people trying to complete quests in "not easy-mode EQ" with asshattery and intentionally griefing staff...I really don't know what to say. But wow.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It looks like the best answer here is to attempt to get all known guilds to ratify an agreement that there will be a /random contest held on-site at Gloridain minus 5 minutes. Then all we can do is name and shame the rogues.

If you win the /random and fail, Orc Chief rights fall to the next high roll until Garadain has died/despawned...

The problem with guild agreements here is not everyone doing the ring is in a large guild or any guild for that matter.

This could be ratified by all guilds and possibly work, but it only takes one person who disagrees to ruin the whole thing. It will be tough to keep this agreement in order if one person ignore the random winner and turns in themselves.

It worked on Ragefire briefly and Noble Dojorn because those took a raid for awhile until Donals fell from the sky and monks were in max MR gear.

[Droog007]

It doesn't ruin the whole thing - it's a 24 hour setback. I'll grant you that I haven't been there that many times for the click-fest... but I'm mainly (99%) seeing Asgard, Omni, Divinity, Taken...

[Daldaen]

My point is how many 24 hour setbacks will need to happen before the agreeing parties decide they have a better shot at just throwing the agreement aside and clicking air again.

Agreements are great but if not everyone is bound by it, it can fall apart quickly.

[wormed]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point is how many 24 hour setbacks will need to happen before the agreeing parties decide they have a better shot at just throwing the agreement aside and clicking air again.

Agreements are great but if not everyone is bound by it, it can fall apart quickly.

I don't agree. I don't think setbacks make someone want to come to an agreement. I think it's just an impossible agreement to enforce, unfortunately. With that said, I'd be up for an agreement, however.

[Pan]

It really doesn't have to be an all or nothing thing. Nor does it need to be particularly enforceable to make incremental progress, at least. Once that I know of, those who were there agreed to /random. And when I get to that step (screwed up on my 6th or 7th ring turnin...doh!), I'll suggest it each night I'm there. I suppose sometimes it will work, and sometimes not.

But incremental progress toward a more sane server is better than no progress at all. So many times we expect a top-down solution when there's one available from the inside->out instead.

[captnamazing]

cloki let me take this moment to say that your sig comes across as very rapey

[nyclin]

haynar and rogean must be going through some rough times or something, they've been super salty lately

makes no sense to leave this 100% classic when scout charisa and ziglark whisperwing have already been modified "for CSR reasons"

people are going to be assholes no matter what, may as well make it so that people who are assholes aren't impacting others' hard work and aren't creating unneeded work for the CSR staff

[wormed]

Originally Posted by nyclin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

haynar and rogean must be going through some rough times or something, they've been super salty lately

makes no sense to leave this 100% classic when scout charisa and ziglark whisperwing have already been modified "for CSR reasons"

people are going to be assholes no matter what, may as well make it so that people who are assholes aren't impacting others' hard work and aren't creating unneeded work for the CSR staff

The selective nature of what they feel has to remain classic and what doesn't makes absolutely no sense. God dammit, why can't I turn off Velious armor textures? I mean... COME ON!

[Pan]

Originally Posted by captnamazing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cloki let me take this moment to say that your sig comes across as very rapey

As Dr. Freud might say, "Sometimes an Olive Branch is just a cigar..."