TMO or Empire

[sktank]

Just depends what you want to do... If you want good gear and to be smashing others in the server join empire. If you wanna join the peewee squad thinking "we can do this guys!" Join TMO. Str8, blunt, to the point

[Malevz]

Join both at diff times, or on diff chars.

Only thing I can tell you 100% is if you believe the stuff you read on message boards or in ooc, you'll think every guild is terrible. Make up your own mind.

[Samsung]

It's been so dull for me lately but if you want pixels now empire, if you want to be apart of something special TMO.

[Brutality]

Empire small tightly knit Christian family guild.. Integrity is Gongshows middle name

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by Brutality [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Integrity is Gongshows middle name

Is "No" his first name?

[Nirgon]

Gongshow tries very hard to keep the shit bags in line

Not an easy job and no one can expect 100% results

You think people just tell him all the stupid horrible things they are doing

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gongshow tries very hard to keep the shit bags in line

Not an easy job and no one can expect 100% results

You think people just tell him all the stupid horrible things they are doing

50% results would be an improvement.

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think people just tell him all the stupid horrible things they are doing

So you are admitting that Empire members do stupid horrible things all the time. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I still remember Gong lying to me in TS about not knowing about deletegate. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Uton]

Originally Posted by Radicale [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do either of these guilds possess any form of integrity?

I'll give you a non troll response.

<TMO>

was a really great thing for this server and had full support of <Empire> to gear/lvl up and get keyed and eventually contest. They were griefed continuously by Azrael/Friends who were <Good Guys> tagged. Then, when GG disbanded they absorbed the Azrael peeps and their alts which they were given a chance to correct and when they didn't TMO became immediately KOS to Empire.

Now TMO is melting from within because the people they were warned not to tag are doing content as a sub/seperate faction within TMO without allowing the core+newbs (True TMO) to benefit.

TMO then disbanded many of the usurpers and lost a few important core people... they are melting from within.

<Empire>

is geared, well organized and friendly. I for example I honestly consider myself a "Non-factor", yet when I had what I needed for necro epic - the leadership and over a dozen members were willing to commit several hours of their Friday night to help complete what I needed and clear/crawl plane of air to complete the turn ins.

That being said - I would not leave or speak negatively about Empire or any of its leadership because I am thouroughly impressed with their level of care for the Guild as a whole, the individuals who show up and do work, the coordination and direction of the community, and the fairness of the loot distrobution.

Conclusion:

My opinion is completely bias, but from my personal experience TMO leadership is introverted, lacks Red99 experience and history: the reason they are flopping around atm.

Joining TMO as a final desitination plan is slim won't get you blacklisted from Empire as long as someone can vouch for you not being trash.

Joining Empire is a final destination - if you leave and join another guild it is a step down.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Uton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll give you a non troll response.

<TMO>

was a really great thing for this server and had full support of <Empire> to gear/lvl up and get keyed and eventually contest. They were griefed continuously by Azrael/Friends who were <Good Guys> tagged. Then, when GG disbanded they absorbed the Azrael peeps and their alts which they were given a chance to correct and when they didn't TMO became immediately KOS to Empire.

Now TMO is melting from within because the people they were warned not to tag are doing content as a sub/seperate faction within TMO without allowing the core+newbs (True TMO) to benefit.

TMO then disbanded many of the usurpers and lost a few important core people... they are melting from within.

So some hidden Details behind this "non-troll response"

TMO was only supported by Empire originally because we were brand new and Empire thought they could absorb us.

This is a 300 pop server, and Empire has a guild roster well over 100 players. Empire was only happy with TMO as long as we didn't invite a specific group of 30 or so players who have killed them in PvP at times. It's all a thinly-veiled smear campaign designed to discredit any group who stands against them. Empire has little desire for competition on this box.

TMO isn't melting from within and we have actually attracted some Empire members to join our ranks recently. TMO is growing and will present a valid raid option in Velious. Probably not in the first few weeks though.. we've only been here about 6-8 weeks and some of our rank and file are still leveling and getting basic resist gear.