Top 10 Velious cash camps

[Crawdad]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see how anyone not in a top tier raiding guild will acquire anything better than Dragon/Giant quest armor for a long time, regardless of how much pp they have.

What does the armor breakdown look like anyways?

PoGrowth armor < Thurg quest < Kael quest < Skyshrine quest < ToV quest/drops..

Swap Kael and Skyshrine rankings for tanks in rankings I believe, but aside from a few other sets - Crustacean, Guardians, Crystal chitin, <quality> Dragonhide, PoM sets, and ..Royal Velium? - I don't know what sets are out there, but none of them really match up to quest armor besides select matchless dragonhide pieces.

I don't really see 90% of the server getting above PoG/Thurg armor sets. Farming armor in ToV is not a cakewalk like getting Thurg quest armor (manor for plate, arena for everything else). A lot of the other gear will be upgrades for people, but its not Skyshrine/kael quality.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Crawdad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What does the armor breakdown look like anyways?

PoGrowth armor < Thurg quest < Kael quest < Skyshrine quest < ToV quest/drops..

Swap Kael and Skyshrine rankings for tanks in rankings I believe, but aside from a few other sets - Crustacean, Guardians, Crystal chitin, <quality> Dragonhide, PoM sets, and ..Royal Velium? - I don't know what sets are out there, but none of them really match up to quest armor besides select matchless dragonhide pieces.

I don't really see 90% of the server getting above PoG/Thurg armor sets. Farming armor in ToV is not a cakewalk like getting Thurg quest armor (manor for plate, arena for everything else). A lot of the other gear will be upgrades for people, but its not Skyshrine/kael quality.

PoG and Thurg are identical im pretty sure and I'd use Skyshrine over Kael armor consider how AC isn't fully working here.

[Bweetza]

Originally Posted by Crawdad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't really see 90% of the server getting above PoG/Thurg armor sets. Farming armor in ToV is not a cakewalk like getting Thurg quest armor (manor for plate, arena for everything else). A lot of the other gear will be upgrades for people, but its not Skyshrine/kael quality.

Skyshrine and Kael pieces will probably be camped for MQs once the raiding guilds get bored.

Any consensus on Kael versus Skyshrine? People seemed to think it was a toss up on Live, but I can't imagine a game this min/maxed hasn't decided which is the better set. Since it's going to cost my firstborn, I'd like to make the right choice.

[Maelstrom]

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http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=7824

[Roguejm11]

Dragon/Giant armor is pretty fantastic stuff though.

[Itap]

My druid will have more places to port, I guess you can call that a money maker

[Champion_Standing]

Can't wait for the lawyerquesting to start I'm rolling a new bard on blue just to get in on that action.

[Pokesan]

any clickies get nerfed other than beads and velium pendant?

[Raev]

http://wiki.project1999.com/Cobalt_Breastplate (Kunark)
http://wiki.project1999.com/Berserker%27s_Breastplate (PoG)
http://wiki.project1999.com/Champion%27s_Breastplate (Dwarf)
http://wiki.project1999.com/Breastplate_of_the_Myrmidon (Dragon)
http://wiki.project1999.com/Warlord%27s_Breastplate (Giant)

I guess I would be inclined to say that PoG/Dwarf stuff (roughly equivalent) is a moderate upgrade over Kunark, and then Dragon/Giant stuff (roughly equivalent) is a moderate upgrade over that. Unless you rolled an Iksar warrior; in that case you upgrading vs Trooper Scale intended for L30-40.

But basically, I think for the first time the raid gear is going to actually matter. In Kunark, a Class R tank is missing exactly two slots vs a Class C tank: Crown of Rile vs SSB, and BotBDE vs Sword of the Shissar. Congratulations, you have 5400 HP vs 5300 HP, and it doesn't matter anyway because the fight lasts 25 seconds. Or a Class R Cleric is missing 2 PD slots vs a Class C one, and has 200 fewer mana. It does not matter. But in Velious, if you stack NToV stuff it'll be like +500 mana/HP and a lot of resists as well vs people that only have quest armor, and the encounters will last longer, so not everyone will be able to Prayers/wort pot their way through.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://wiki.project1999.com/Cobalt_Breastplate (Kunark)
http://wiki.project1999.com/Berserker%27s_Breastplate (PoG)
http://wiki.project1999.com/Champion%27s_Breastplate (Dwarf)
http://wiki.project1999.com/Breastplate_of_the_Myrmidon (Dragon)
http://wiki.project1999.com/Warlord%27s_Breastplate (Giant)

I guess I would be inclined to say that PoG/Dwarf stuff (roughly equivalent) is a moderate upgrade over Kunark, and then Dragon/Giant stuff (roughly equivalent) is a moderate upgrade over that. Unless you rolled an Iksar warrior; in that case you upgrading vs Trooper Scale intended for L30-40.

But basically, I think for the first time the raid gear is going to actually matter. In Kunark, a Class R tank is missing exactly two slots vs a Class C tank: Crown of Rile vs SSB, and BotBDE vs Sword of the Shissar. Congratulations, you have 5400 HP vs 5300 HP, and it doesn't matter anyway because the fight lasts 25 seconds. Or a Class R Cleric is missing 2 PD slots vs a Class C one, and has 200 fewer mana. It does not matter. But in Velious, if you stack NToV stuff it'll be like +500 mana/HP and a lot of resists as well vs people that only have quest armor, and the encounters will last longer, so not everyone will be able to Prayers/wort pot their way through.

The best thing about Thurg/Pog Kael/SS armor is the spread of resist stats. You can accumulate a good resist set without sacrificing hp/ac/mana like you had to in kunark.