Expansions after Velious on P1999

[B4EQWASCOOL]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want this type of "class balance", then classic EQ is not for you and you might want to try World of Warcraft.

Can't get much more balanced than League of Legends. Balance patches nearly weekly. And free.

[Jaleth]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fixed Raid Window
85/15 Gimp System
Mass Enchants/Imbues
Added Research
Excellent mid-level spell quests
Shared Bank
8 More Bank Slots
Mana shown in Inventory
Scroll Wheel to 3rd Person

I think those are just a few of the highlights

Armor dyes were also introduced in this expansion, correct? If so this is what made me love LoY.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's an enormous difference between balanced and every class is self sufficient.

Balance means every group can suffice with any of the 3 priests healing, they will just each heal in a different way (later on EQ this was true, shamans through HoT+Slow Damage prevention, Druids through fast heals, and clerics through a combination of HoT/Fast Heals).

Classic EQ was horribly balanced until PoP. PoP everything fell more in line. Knights and Warriors could tank the same group content. Druids, Shamans and Clerics could heal the same group content. Wizards and Rangers were fantastic group DPS, etc.

In Velious a Cleric will be a requirement in a high level group camp like Sirens Grotto. That's dumb that you are required to have a single class to do normal content. There should be some interchangeability. You're required to have a healer, sure. You're required to have a tank, definitely. You're required to have some DPS, fantastic.

But requiring a warrior, cleric, shaman, rogue setup is dumb. It was close to heading this way but AAs and Luclin/PoP balanced things out very nicely

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Class interchangeability within arch classes (all healers, all tanks, etc) are not the same as WoW system where MOST of the classes can switch between complete arch roles from tank to dps to healer on a whim.

And if game MEANT for every group to have mandatory war+cle+enc, + 3 dps, then what the hell the other 9 classes are for? Cosmetic appearances? That's BS [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Baler]

Can they just add PoP and skip luclin? <3

[Rararboker]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Class interchangeability within arch classes (all healers, all tanks, etc) are not the same as WoW system where MOST of the classes can switch between complete arch roles from tank to dps to healer on a whim.

And if game MEANT for every group to have mandatory war+cle+enc, + 3 dps, then what the hell the other 9 classes are for? Cosmetic appearances? That's BS [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wha? Do you even play this game? That post reads like it was written by someone who doesn't play p99. Classes all have roles and specific uses but not all of them fall into the "optimum for standard groups" category. I believe there is a place where you can find that. It is called, every other MMO on the market.

[eyepatch]

Custom content could be amazing. Luclin and pop zones with classic NPC's?

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wha? Do you even play this game? That post reads like it was written by someone who doesn't play p99. Classes all have roles and specific uses but not all of them fall into the "optimum for standard groups" category. I believe there is a place where you can find that. It is called, every other MMO on the market.

In Velious a Cleric will be a requirement in a high level group camp like Sirens Grotto. That's dumb that you are required to have a single class to do normal content.

Yes, I didn't meant your average sit on your ass Karnor group.

And - "Classes all have roles and specific uses" - is laughable. Ranger brings such a great class specific ability to a group - they needed to take DTs... and oh wait they can track!

[Rararboker]

So, you claim they have no role then mention a few of their roles? Not sure if trolling or if you actually think you are making sense right now.

Taking DT's is actually a very important aspect to taking down mobs who do DT. If you don't specify then tanks and clerics are most likely the first to get mowed down. Tracking, likewise, is an important role that only rangers can really fulfill.

Are all of the roles in EQ glamorous? Not necessarily but that is part of the appeal. People, the staff, made this server because classic EQ was special. Likewise, everyone who chooses to play here does so for those same reasons. So instead of requesting everyone else conforms to how you think p99 should be run, why don't you just enjoy it?

Otherwise, as I already stated, there is a multitude of other games which offer the "balance" you seek.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, you claim they have no role then mention a few of their roles? Not sure if trolling or if you actually think you are making sense right now.

Taking DT's is actually a very important aspect to taking down mobs who do DT. If you don't specify then tanks and clerics are most likely the first to get mowed down. Tracking, likewise, is an important role that only rangers can really fulfill.

Are all of the roles in EQ glamorous? Not necessarily but that is part of the appeal. People, the staff, made this server because classic EQ was special. Likewise, everyone who chooses to play here does so for those same reasons. So instead of requesting everyone else conforms to how you think p99 should be run, why don't you just enjoy it?

Otherwise, as I already stated, there is a multitude of other games which offer the "balance" you seek.

You seem to be confused about liking general idea of a classic setting vs liking everything classic up to 100% like some sort of religious fanatic.
Just because I don't like SOME of the thing that going on in MY country, doesn't mean I want to immigrate.
And any idiot can be assigned to take a DT - the reason it was always joked to go the ranger only signifies how useless they were for pretty much anything else. And tracking is hardly EVER needed once you get a little bit accustomed with the area you hunting/camping.
The sheer fact that some classes were made ultra-specialized for hard grouping/raiding, while others were given questionable soloing abilities shows inherited issues with game original design (such as hideous Xp penalties on rather gimp classes, while having virtually no penalty on ultra powerful class like necro). Even original EQ devs realized this and XP penalties were removed during Velious and classes got few extra perks that helped them to be more balanced. Even them, the game itself shifted heavily towards higher end, where more casual grouping classes became less desirable (again see statement by Daldaen about Velious high end grouping content)

[curryworst]

argh no keep the classic style going pop and luclin where too much.