Absolute best combination with shaman 1-60

[zajurai]

I'd say Shadowknight, Warrior or Monk. Shaman buff spells nicely compliment classes that can't buff very well or at all. The buff-deprived partner ideally will keep threat off of Mr. Shaman as well, so a tankish class fits perfectly.

[fiveeauxfour]

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[Lune]

Well, I'm not going to argue with you. RCY and LCY were just an example of a place a shaman sometimes solo's, that's it. That would be a shitty place to duo. And I acknowledged that monk/shaman was much more relaxing and low-effort. OP asked for the absolute best combination, not the absolute chillest.

So many of the things you've said indicate that you:

1. Clearly don't fully understand the enchanter/shaman dynamic, or even what well-played enchanters are capable of.

2. Misinterpreted or ignored half of what I said.

You should be more open-minded next time, you might learn some useful things.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, I'm not going to argue with you. RCY and LCY were just an example of a place a shaman sometimes solo's, that's it. That would be a shitty place to duo. And I acknowledged that monk/shaman was much more relaxing and low-effort. OP asked for the absolute best combination, not the absolute chillest.

So many of the things you've said indicate that you:

1. Clearly don't fully understand the enchanter/shaman dynamic, or even what well-played enchanters are capable of.

2. Misinterpreted or ignored half of what I said.

You should be more open-minded next time, you might learn some useful things.

haha talk about ignoring man, you arnt even reading my post, i specifically said the monk is the obvious answer because not only are they able to provide chill xp, but also the most powerful duo in the game, vastly superior than enchanter/shaman. So whatever your desire is, the monk shaman can fofill it, be it from frolicking around norrath questing, to downing the biggest loot mobs in the game.

You arnt arguing with me, because you haven't got a single grain of sand to stand on bro. your only argument in favor of enchanter shaman is the enchanter helps rot shit by charming mobs and breaking when they get low, In seb, casters will rape your face off.

not to mention the fact that you could do your entire, shaman rots everything while the enchanter helps more efficiently if the monk was pulling the RCY to the LCY while the shaman were rotting everything 'solo' style, keeping steady mob deaths & xp flowing...

You see, pulling and keeping mobs in the camp is the difficult factor once you are rolling in this scenario, not killing the mobs already dotted with the shamans 'free' mana. You dont need to quickly down them, you need to keep them coming, and keep them coming steady while the free mana does the killing. youll see an xp message every 20 or 30 seconds if you do it with the monk, steady, all night.

And oh for the record, I listened to you, and I do every time you turn everything you post about on these boards into a personal attack.

But seriously, you are wrong, dead wrong.. enc/sham is a good combo, but nowhere near the best for shaman, and no where near the best for enchanter. Get over it.. still a great class, but not in the same universe as monk/shaman

As I said when I originally said monk is the best, OP asked for the Absolute best combo for a shaman in the game, which is why he should not roll enchanter, its good, but not the best in any area.

Ok maybe one area, HS North, but who the hell cares about that. You can stil get that monk an addy club and then leave and never come back to that zone if you wanted with the shaman alone. And the monk pulling and shaman rooting and rotting still may be more efficient than the enchanter and shaman pulling, and the enchanter getting HT'd and then needing to get a CR and a key to get back... you see where this is going? monk shaman > enchanter shaman

That said, have you ever played in a solid group doing HS south or East, with a shaman, as an enchanter? It's humiliating, with AoE slow, there is arguably no reason to even have an enchanter there, except for Clarity for the healer (or DPS for xp groups only, XP groups stop eventually tho and it becomes less valuable for the risk reward of having that DPS). Hell, even a cleric is another class you might ask your self, 'why is this guy here?' if you have a 60 shaman with you in those camps. So even in group situations a monk shaman is better than enchanter shaman.

The shaman will never ask why a monk is with them, but they may ask themselves why any other class is there taking up loot rolls when they really don't need to be there though.

Shaman/monk, for any reason you can possibly imagine, is far superior.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

haha talk about ignoring man, you arnt even reading my post, i specifically said the monk is the obvious answer because not only are they able to provide chill xp, but also the most powerful duo in the game, vastly superior than enchanter/shaman. So whatever your desire is, the monk shaman can fofill it, be it from frolicking around norrath questing, to downing the biggest loot mobs in the game.

You arnt arguing with me, because you haven't got a single grain of sand to stand on bro. your only argument in favor of enchanter shaman is the enchanter helps rot shit by charming mobs and breaking when they get low, In seb, casters will rape your face off.

not to mention the fact that you could do your entire, shaman rots everything while the enchanter helps more efficiently if the monk was pulling the RCY to the LCY while the shaman were rotting everything 'solo' style, keeping steady mob deaths & xp flowing...

You see, pulling and keeping mobs in the camp is the difficult factor once you are rolling in this scenario, not killing the mobs already dotted with the shamans 'free' mana. You dont need to quickly down them, you need to keep them coming, and keep them coming steady while the free mana does the killing. youll see an xp message every 20 or 30 seconds if you do it with the monk, steady, all night.

And oh for the record, I listened to you, and I do every time you turn everything you post about on these boards into a personal attack.

But seriously, you are wrong, dead wrong.. enc/sham is a good combo, but nowhere near the best for shaman, and no where near the best for enchanter. Get over it.. still a great class, but not in the same universe as monk/shaman

As I said when I originally said monk is the best, OP asked for the Absolute best combo for a shaman in the game, which is why he should not roll enchanter, its good, but not the best in any area.

Ok maybe one area, HS North, but who the hell cares about that. You can stil get that monk an addy club and then leave and never come back to that zone if you wanted with the shaman alone. And the monk pulling and shaman rooting and rotting still may be more efficient than the enchanter and shaman pulling, and the enchanter getting HT'd and then needing to get a CR and a key to get back... you see where this is going? monk shaman > enchanter shaman

That said, have you ever played in a solid group doing HS south or East, with a shaman, as an enchanter? It's humiliating, with AoE slow, there is arguably no reason to even have an enchanter there, except for Clarity for the healer (or DPS for xp groups only, XP groups stop eventually tho and it becomes less valuable for the risk reward of having that DPS). Hell, even a cleric is another class you might ask your self, 'why is this guy here?' if you have a 60 shaman with you in those camps. So even in group situations a monk shaman is better than enchanter shaman.

The shaman will never ask why a monk is with them, but they may ask themselves why any other class is there taking up loot rolls when they really don't need to be there though.

Shaman/monk, for any reason you can possibly imagine, is far superior.

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[Clark]

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I support this wall of text

[eisley]

enc/shm requires a lot less gear to level really fast, which is one big thing to consider. don't even have to leave city of mist from 40 til 60 either.

but aside from that, I agree with the guy who has a monk hard-on.

[Caridry]

I think what it boils down to is what I am going to prefer playing... I don't think I will have much fun late game with a monk, as I find melee in EQ very boring unless it is bard, since there is so much to do.

While I agree, I think monk would be the most relaxed/least downtime option, my ADHD would kick in too much. I think either enchanter or necro would best suit me... sadly, I am torn between those two... =/

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Caridry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think what it boils down to is what I am going to prefer playing... I don't think I will have much fun late game with a monk, as I find melee in EQ very boring unless it is bard, since there is so much to do.

While I agree, I think monk would be the most relaxed/least downtime option, my ADHD would kick in too much. I think either enchanter or necro would best suit me... sadly, I am torn between those two... =/

A monk may have less buttons to push than a bard..but you are still a busy class, especially for melee. At least in a group setting, in a duo it will be slower.

If it boils down to chanter or necro, go chanter. Necro is a blast, but i rank my chanter right up near my bard for difficulty to play well and its a very fun and powerful class.

[Caridry]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A monk may have less buttons to push than a bard..but you are still a busy class, especially for melee. At least in a group setting, in a duo it will be slower.

If it boils down to chanter or necro, go chanter. Necro is a blast, but i rank my chanter right up near my bard for difficulty to play well and its a very fun and powerful class.

I just love the idea of the outright utility, and versatility of enchanters. Monks might be busy, but in the end they can start to get very expensive, and while I want to duo with my friend, monks can't solo money camps like enchanters can.