"Not Classic" only applies to SOE content after Velious?

[Roguejm11]

SOE doesn't exist anymore. Therefore, nothing is classic.

Mind Blown!

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by caldiar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The term 'classic' as I understand it stems from the history of Brad McQuaid and Verant's acquisition by Sony.
Brad McQuaid, as I'm sure most here know, was the dude responsible for pitching the EQ vision. He was the head honcho of design for stock, Kunark, and Velious.
After Velious' release, Verant got bought up by Sony Online Entertainment which also resulted in Brad being promoted (need to fact check that), and become responsible for more than just EverQuest apparently (EverQuest 2, EverQuest Online Adventures, PlanetSide, and Star Wars: Galaxies).
He wasn't super stoked with his new responsibilities and left SOE in 2001.
Luclin onwards were expansions that EverQuest's creator had no input on. They lacked his vision and took the game elsewhere steered by people who didn't know what Brad had in mind for the game.

Classic = Brad McQuaid's work.
Non-classic = everything else.

Brad/Verant were SOE employees from the day one. To be specific SOE hired Brad and gave him a position at Verant to create EQ for them. (ever wondered where QE-ynoS comes from?) Exactly the same team of devs (minus Brad) produced Luclin and PoP as all previous expansions.

[Doors]

The "not classic" argument is only used when it suits them. If you've been here long enough you already know these servers are not classic at all.

[caldiar]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Brad/Verant were SOE employees from the day one. To be specific SOE hired Brad and gave him a position at Verant to create EQ for them. (ever wondered where QE-ynoS comes from?) Exactly the same team of devs (minus Brad) produced Luclin and PoP as all previous expansions.

Yes but they were their own entity. Their project was EverQuest and just EverQuest until SoE made them a multi-project group and divvied up the team members for other projects.

Concerning "same team of devs (minus Brad)", let's say for argument that I was responsible for making models in the game. I'm an artist. That's my job. I was there from Day 1 and continued on to whatever the latest expansion is. The task of making models holds no weight on the direction of the game itself. I'm just a dude making models for the guys telling me what I should be making.
Brad was the dude who steered the ship. He laid down the rules for making everything cohesive.

And this is evident in Luclin onwards. This is why, I think, that the "trilogy" has the 'classic feel' while everything from that point on feels incredibly alien to what EQ was.

[Duncon]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you've been here long enough you already know these servers are not classic at all.

What else even comes close? P99 is really damd good given that we don't actually have a time machine.

[nilzark]

It is known as Vlassic.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by caldiar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes but they were their own entity. Their project was EverQuest and just EverQuest until SoE made them a multi-project group and divvied up the team members for other projects.

Concerning "same team of devs (minus Brad)", let's say for argument that I was responsible for making models in the game. I'm an artist. That's my job. I was there from Day 1 and continued on to whatever the latest expansion is. The task of making models holds no weight on the direction of the game itself. I'm just a dude making models for the guys telling me what I should be making.
Brad was the dude who steered the ship. He laid down the rules for making everything cohesive.

And this is evident in Luclin onwards. This is why, I think, that the "trilogy" has the 'classic feel' while everything from that point on feels incredibly alien to what EQ was.

Ok I agree with this much. I just don't agree with the notion that "SOE ruined things when they bought Verant", cause:
-Verant has ALWAYS been SOE property
and
-Verant team always had free rein on ALL decisions all way up to LDOn expansion when they were finally reincorporated into main SOE structure and given VIP oversight over their work.

In other words - Luclin and PoP were 100% Verants creation, yes, minus Brad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
And ship steering wise - Luclin and PoP addressed lots of issues with class balance that Brad always ignored (finally upgrading hybrids, wizards, druids, giving pure melees some abilities to click, etc)

[Taryth]

Originally Posted by nilzark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is known as Vlassic.

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[Ac888]

Lets just wipe and restart from Vanilla!

I missed out [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Ac888 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lets just wipe and restart from Vanilla!

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I too want my own manastone <3