"Recycle Server" please sooner than "months into velious"!!

[Kileras]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Among other things, yes. I think blue server is currently an overcrowded train wreck due to a 90% level 60 population (and their alts with alts) which itself is a result of a stagnant Kunark timeline. Adding additional guilds worth of more maxed level raiders to blue isn't going to help anything. A minor concern next to a potentially healthy new community getting sent back to this dysfunctional server.

I played a lot of PoE before switching over to p99, and this new p99 system feels a lot like the season system in PoE.

In a way, the system sounds really great but there are definitely some concerns in my opinion. First off, you basically will seperate the casuals from the hardcores, the casuals will not want to go through with all the level grinding all over again and starting at 0, while the hardcores relish the opportunity. This means that the casuals will finally have a chance at raiding because most of the big guilds that dominate the raid scene will be over on the re99 rather than blue99.

The issue here is that when the recycle happens, we will be back to poopsock crazyness of big name guilds muscling their way in with playtime and dominating the scene again. So what happens then? another re99 server immediately after the last one? the merging and dissolution of the player base (granted we are talking every 3 years) seems like potential headache. but its friggen 3 years after, who knows what will happen. A fresh server is good regardless so we should just go with it.

the worst case scenario in my book, and what i think is the most likely to happen, is that the people who want more pixels are going to poopsock both servers. we are talking being logged into both servers at once making sure that your guild is dominating the rotation/getting as many pixels as possible on both servers. Would the recycle server actually open up trak/etc... for the casuals on blue? i don't know, i doubt it....considering how hard the poopsocking is right now i highly doubt big guilds are going to just stop doing it on blue99 once they role re99.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Among other things, yes. I think blue server is currently an overcrowded train wreck due to a 90% level 60 population (and their alts with alts) which itself is a result of a stagnant Kunark timeline. Adding additional guilds worth of more maxed level raiders to blue isn't going to help anything. A minor concern next to a potentially healthy new community getting sent back to this dysfunctional server.

Like you say, it's already a wreck. It's not going to get any better. It'll only continue to get worse on its own as more and more people get to 60. What difference does it make if they get 60 and gear on this server or that, other than they'll have fun on a fresh server and bring in more legacy items?

This is only a bad thing for the minority of the population that feel the need to monopolize content. The majority will have the chance to relive EQ at its best, which is the whole point of the server.

This also solves the problem of pissing people off when the Sleeper is awoken right away.

[rollin5k]

For all the people complaining wtf. Its a great idea and an improvement on what we have (staleness and bloat)
Im casual AF and will jump on the chance at a fresh start a thousand times over. Even if it's not PvP.
Bless the makers

[Kileras]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like you say, it's already a wreck. It's not going to get any better. It'll only continue to get worse on its own as more and more people get to 60. What difference does it make if they get 60 and gear on this server or that, other than they'll have fun on a fresh server and bring in more legacy items?

This is only a bad thing for the minority of the population that feel the need to monopolize content. The majority will have the chance to relive EQ at its best, which is the whole point of the server.

This also solves the problem of pissing people off when the Sleeper is awoken right away.

Considering how many lowbies there will be, and how hardcore the neckbeards are going to dominate all of the classic leveling zones/nostalgia dungeon crawls/items.... I don't know if it is a fair assumption to say that people will finally have the chance to relive EQ at its best. Maybe 3-4 months into the new re99 server though, there is a chance.

[salimoneus]

Originally Posted by HalflingWarrior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously? Your guild is the #1 reason the servr is so unhealthy. No new guild can possibly hope to even compete when you've been farming VP for EIGHT TIMES longer than classic; your guild banks has tens of millions of platinum etc etc.

Nothing about p99 is remotely "classic" at this point. Four years of kunark being farmed by a single guild is what ruined the server which is clearly obvious.

It's not entirely fair to toss one guild under the buss, it's definitely more an issue of having the time to amass such a force. If food is provided people are going to eat.

I'd say try to focus attention on the new "recycle" server and look forward to a more classic Initial Release -> Velious experience, and let the "bad guys" work out all the Velious bugs in the meantime [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ele]

Adding few more rez staves, thex daggers, mistwalkers, and manastones to an already over inflated and (then) 3+ year stagnant content server does what harm?

The people being rolled into blue will be at a significant platinum disadvantage to the 8+ years of plat hording that blue will have achieved by then.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Kileras [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Considering how many lowbies there will be, and how hardcore the neckbeards are going to dominate all of the classic leveling zones/nostalgia dungeon crawls/items.... I don't know if it is a fair assumption to say that people will finally have the chance to relive EQ at its best. Maybe 3-4 months into the new re99 server though, there is a chance.

There's always the chance, not to mention it's a social game, no matter what the neckbeards do, people will have the opportunity to group in Cazic-Thule for Rubicite, group in Guk for a Guise if they're persistent and social enough. Not everyone is a neckbeard, no, but many people who play this game go neckbeardy enough from time to time when they're focused on getting something.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Malsirian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes! They specifically said that would be ok.

So it's utterly pointless then. The same handful of dudes are gonna be afk monopolizing the key cash camps on both servers at once, the same handful of dudes are gonna be PLing accounts and RMT'ing pre-built toons to shitlords on both servers at once. No doubt Platlord is rubbing his hands in glee at the prospects for still more sub-minimum wage shenanigans even now. :sadface:

[Loke]

I dont think anyone is really against a new server, just against the idea of people pushing for it so quickly when there are a ton of us on thjs server that have literally been waiting for years on velious. Let us get velious, give them a few months to tweak and correct any errors, then lets talk about another server. We have a limited staff on this server and I for one think the vast majority of their focus should be on the accurate and smooth introduction of velious, not some new server so people who joined p99 in the past year can feel like theyre starting on a level playing field.

Patience is a virtue, the fact theyre even offering a second server is a gift itself, now sit down and wait patiently like the rest of us.

[Kileras]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont think anyone is really against a new server, just against the idea of people pushing for it so quickly when there are a ton of us on thjs server that have literally been waiting for years on velious. Let us get velious, give them a few months to tweak and correct any errors, then lets talk about another server. We have a limited staff on this server and I for one think the vast majority of their focus should be on the accurate and smooth introduction of velious, not some new server so people who joined p99 in the past year can feel like theyre starting on a level playing field.

Patience is a virtue, the fact theyre even offering a second server is a gift itself, now sit down and wait patiently like the rest of us.

this is basically what they are doing... they made it very clear that they weren't doing any recycle servers until "well into velious", which probably means a lot longer than anyone else is thinking.