History Revised: Enraptured

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just felt like clearing it up some, partly because sirken prefaced his ruling with "if i remember correctly."

In the big scheme of things, enraptured was a 2 month blip on the radar. Not like I blame sirken for not keeping track of every detail for every insignificant guild that occured over the 5 years or so hes been doing this.

I just felt like the details he remembered were more in line with what competition was spamming the forums with, and not what actually happened. Although Kaev remembers it differently, I recall a good faith effort on the part of the officers to try to create something.

When the going got tough, they opted to take the easy route and merge... and not to many of those in enraptured are still around to recount the details.

I was just a scrub, barely planar level not even 50. I had very little direct interaction with any of the leadership other than the officer who tagged me (who was apparently not in on the plan to dissolve the guild.) All I know is one day we were being told we're working to become a raiding guild on our own and the next day we're told that we're substandard TMO fodder. I find it hard to come up with good things to say about Enraptured's leadership after that shit went down.

[MooseTX82]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was just a scrub, barely planar level not even 50. I had very little direct interaction with any of the leadership other than the officer who tagged me (who was apparently not in on the plan to dissolve the guild.) All I know is one day we were being told we're working to become a raiding guild on our own and the next day we're told that we're substandard TMO fodder. I find it hard to come up with good things to say about Enraptured's leadership after that shit went down.

And who are / were you?

[kaev]

Originally Posted by MooseTX82 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And who are / were you?

My main and my forum handle have been the same since I started p99 in Sep 2011. And yeah, I'm still a scrub. Biggest change since the Enraptured fiasco is that now I'm a scrub in a guild that isn't led by weasels.

[radditsu]

i think what we all can agree on is DarkDeath is a nasal voiced cuntstain.

[Signal]

We need public petitions. Plain and Simple. People would get to see some of the head scratching decisions that have been made lately if they were public. This is getting crazier by the week.

[Freakish]

I know Lilyanna has access. I don't know who else does, lets assume they rebranded because A-Team would not join under the IB tag.

They skirted the suspension that they knew was in against them. There are a constant stream of petitions in Class C, its ridiculous. Some are warranted, others are just nitpicking. At any time of them forming their new guild, there would be petitions in against them. There are petitions over a month old at this point, still unresolved. These petitions aren't just looked at, judged and sentenced. Over the course of a month, mistakes are made and invariably the other side won't accept what you have to say as a defense.

Basically, no matter when they reformed they would have had petitions in against them. If they had done it in two weeks, there probably would have been something that happened next week. To say their guild isn't the old guild is semantics. Its still the same people.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know Lilyanna has access. I don't know who else does, lets assume they rebranded because A-Team would not join under the IB tag.

They skirted the suspension that they knew was in against them. There are a constant stream of petitions in Class C, its ridiculous. Some are warranted, others are just nitpicking. At any time of them forming their new guild, there would be petitions in against them. There are petitions over a month old at this point, still unresolved. These petitions aren't just looked at, judged and sentenced. Over the course of a month, mistakes are made and invariably the other side won't accept what you have to say as a defense.

Basically, no matter when they reformed they would have had petitions in against them. If they had done it in two weeks, there probably would have been something that happened next week. To say their guild isn't the old guild is semantics. Its still the same people.

To me is was a clear circumvention attempt by them. They even retagged under a guild tag they wore before. Don't you think it's a little weird that they chose a time right after TMO got hit by that "5th offense penalty" to change their guild name ?

I'm sure they will sell whatever story they can to not make it seem that way at the moment. Their average member might even believe it. The timing and their 5th penalty looming says otherwise though. I agree with most of what you said.

[Freakish]

I absolutely agree the "volume of offenses" should carry over. I do not think that their new influx of players from A-Team should be held to the suspension IB has. Its one of those take the good with the bad things when you're bringing in an entire guild full of people minus the top leader of IB.

I don't understand how this can be seen as anything but a restructuring of IB and A-Team. Using the comcast example, if they decided to reform under the name "ComcastB" and every one of their employees went and took all their equipment with them and they hired on some new hands, you would still see it as Comcast.

[chief]

Pretty sure we were recently suspended when an app kited sev, quit the guild and had an IB tag before the suspension was issued.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by chief [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure we were recently suspended when an app kited sev, quit the guild and had an IB tag before the suspension was issued.

Calrizen