Plea to GMs: Make everything FFA again.

[Formshifter]

Originally Posted by Tuljin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chestquest

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[RIP The Jacka]

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[arsenalpow]

ChestQuest. Please, tell me more.

[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ChestQuest. Please, tell me more.

The raid classes were formed to stop the multi-year monopoly of one guild of all raid content by poopsocking every single target during the duration of every single spawn window and rapidly mobilizing a zerg force to take it down.

The raid class establishment caused the near complete dissolution of TMO - leadership was booed off the server by peons wielding torches and pitchforks and have yet to return (likely all playing anonymous alts right now) Much of TMO went to IB - in fact when IB came back to P99 around April 2013 they kicked it off with a nice little "tribute" to TMO in the form of a clandestine late-night item swap in the jungles of Trakanon's Teeth.

Class C and Class R are formed in the beginning of 2014 - Class C has sole access to VP (all those old TMO VP keys worked out real nice for IB - so really TMO and TMO have sole access to VP)

Class R gets the other mobs on a restricted basis that eventually becomes rotational. Many guilds the size of TMO and IB do not join class C because they do not have VP keys and they do not have level 60 toons.

These terms were agreed upon after thousands of manhours of nerd diplomacy.

Chestquest brings us right back to the very problem we tried to solve in the first place, except now you don't even need an army of level 60 toons or access to VP.

Just bitch and moan that you're entitled to more mobs because your guild is bigger (i.e. will recruit any odd nub off the street and have 0 expectations of them to reach level 60 or have any remote idea of how to play EQ) In the process, you completely throw away the hours of negotiation in which ~all~ guilds were involved.

You also bring the server back to where it was before the start of the raid classes. That's okay though, because your competition has been removed at this point. Instead you want to "compete" with guilds that never had any expectation of having to "compete" in the first place. The only reason they were formed is because of the raid class system.

Chestquest - the game where you run a guild like Wal*Mart

[Tierael]

Originally Posted by Tuljin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Just bitch and moan that you're entitled to more mobs because your guild is bigger (i.e. will recruit any odd nub off the street and have 0 expectations of them to reach level 60 or have any remote idea of how to play EQ)

I actually spit my drink out when I read this. A) That is just about the most incorrect thing I've read yet on RnF in over 2 years. B) Let's wait until the next CT pop, and watch Gimpatron's "remote" idea of how to play.

Or I could just spoil it for you. *CT pop* EVERYONE ZONE IN NOW, FUCK THE KITE, DON'T LET BDA GET FTE.

Times like those that I'm glad I can at least help rez the poor souls you lead into what you call a raid.

[RIP The Jacka]

Mad

[Juevento]

Don't forget that every raiding guild on blue would annihilate Holo in PvP and PvE. I don't think a server merge would go well for those guys at all.

Now you wanna talk about standing in line for welfare pixels. On red, the one raiding guild knows exactly when a mob spawns and since there is no competition whatsoever, they show up at whatever time and crank that loot vending machine.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't forget that every raiding guild on blue would annihilate Holo in PvP and PvE. I don't think a server merge would go well for those guys at all.

Now you wanna talk about standing in line for welfare pixels. On red, the one raiding guild knows exactly when a mob spawns and since there is no competition whatsoever, they show up at whatever time and crank that loot vending machine.

I would LOVE a blue guild copy to prove this right or wrong.

My honest vote is it'd be a better fight than some people like to admit but I see any of the blue guilds going down like dominos in pvp if it was for a week or two every time.

Over a couple months though? I could see your point after they got to adjust.

The real question is, if a blue guild was forced to copy and got stomped for a few weeks... would we or wouldn't we have them in droves on our door step jumping ship asking to join?

[Blaza]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would LOVE a blue guild copy to prove this right or wrong.

My honest vote is it'd be a better fight than some people like to admit but I see any of the blue guilds going down like dominos in pvp if it was for a week or two every time.

Over a couple months though? I could see your point after they got to adjust.

The real question is, if a blue guild was forced to copy and got stomped for a few weeks... would we or wouldn't we have them in droves on our door step jumping ship asking to join?

Would be fun at least...

[Blaza]

Or how about a red week on Blue? Everyone is forced red for a week. Would shake things up. We do it in BDA every now and again, it mostly leads to people killing Chest nonstop.