Velious Release News

[tristantio]

Pretty sure DDOS (and even the threat of one) is against the CFAA and you could take the party to court if you could prove they threatened to DDOS (and doubley so if they actually went through with it).

Probably cheaper to pay a few thousand to a lawyer and bankrupt/jail them than to spend tens of thousands on anti-ddos protection.

Assuming they are a US, Canadian or other country with anti-computer abuse laws citizen (I guess if they live in Russia or China you'd be SOL though).

[sox7d]

Originally Posted by tristantio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure DDOS (and even the threat of one) is against the CFAA and you could take the party to court if you could prove they threatened to DDOS (and doubley so if they actually went through with it).

Probably cheaper to pay a few thousand to a lawyer and bankrupt/jail them than to spend tens of thousands on anti-ddos protection.

Assuming they are a US, Canadian or other country with anti-computer abuse laws citizen (I guess if they live in Russia or China you'd be SOL though).

On second thought, what's to stop him from getting some russian to do the DDoS for him afterwards?

[applesauce25r624]

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On second thought, what's to stop him from getting some russian to do the DDoS for him afterwards?

yup

aren't most ddos servers hosted in countries w/o extradition treaties ?

[Godefroi]

What amount of money are we talking about here for proper DDoS protection?

I mean, I'm ready to donate the price of a full price AAA game to get velious released, if not more, so that's 60 bucks. And I believe I'm not alone.

Rogean shouldn't be shy to let us know about this, if 50k need to be raised to get proper DDoS protection, I believe it's something the community can achieve.

The issue is that this is an "amateur" project, and the staff are taking care of it as a "very time consuming" hobby, with an almost professionnal structure.

However, people who are seriously involved in the RMT business on p99 make a lot of money, at a massive scale and of course with a 0 tax fiscality.

Everywhere a lot of money is to be made, you will have people with the means and the money to blackmail/threaten/attack you would you get in the way of them making more money (Ban hammer - p99 is the only EMU with a very aggressive anti RMT policy - unlike EZ, hidden forest etc).

Our issue right now is the fact that p99 is an amateur project, with people considering themselves as RMT professionnals and acting as such.

Having the community fund "professionnal" DDoS protection seems the only way to rebalance this situation.

[squarez]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What amount of money are we talking about here for proper DDoS protection?

I mean, I'm ready to donate the price of a full price AAA game to get velious released, if not more, so that's 60 bucks. And I believe I'm not alone.

Rogean shouldn't be shy to let us know about this, if 50k need to be raised to get proper DDoS protection, I believe it's something the community can achieve.

The issue is that this is an "amateur" project, and the staff are taking care of it as a "very time consuming" hobby, with an almost professionnal structure.

However, people who are seriously involved in the RMT business on p99 make a lot of money, at a massive scale and of course with a 0 tax fiscality.

Everywhere a lot of money is to be made, you will have people with the means and the money to blackmail/threaten/attack you would you get in the way of them making more money (Ban hammer - p99 is the only EMU with a very aggressive anti RMT policy - unlike EZ, hidden forest etc).

Our issue right now is the fact that p99 is an amateur project, with people considering themselves as RMT professionnals and acting as such.

Having the community fund "professionnal" DDoS protection seems the only way to rebalance this situation.

Since a DDoS attack would interrupt RMT business, why not set a fixed release date and let the RMTers deal with the people threatening DDoS.

Fight evil with evil!

[Swish]

Don't underestimate a group of banned nerds. Get the best, they'll find a way to bring the servers down if they're determined.

Not saying that people shouldn't donate, but for that... I'm not so sure it's foolproof.

[Pokesan]

How bad would the DDOS be?

Days weeks months? Is Eashan an infinite pile of money?

At some point delaying the release is more harmful than enduring the alternative, right?

^Non factor non raider hottakes above

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Emperor Rogean,

Have you thought of any funding program we could create to help pay for this advanced ddos protection? There's options such as kickstarter, gofundme, or asking donations directly from forums.

Let me know Emperor.

[harnold]

The rmters goods become less valuable when Velious is released so he threatens ddos so it doesn't happen. When the ddoser starts ddosing he makes no money at all. Giving in to his demands is the worst thing you can do here. Release velious, survive ddos, and go back to normal.

[Man0warr]

Costs money to use those DDoS services, less money than it takes to protect against them unfortunately.