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Old 09-17-2010, 12:00 PM
Alawen Everywhere Alawen Everywhere is offline
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The policy is about character names, not guild names. The only restriction on guild names is that they can't be offensive.
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Yes, we've all seen the commercials. Life Alert® is a registered trademark of Life Alert Emergency Response, Inc. While not as prominent as Inglourious Basterds, the guild name Life Alert also has no place on Project 1999. Naming a guild "Life Alert" is analogous to naming a guild "Kaiser Permanente", "Oxycontin" or "Gastric Bypass".

We all understand the naming rules and most of us understood them ten years ago. Some of us thought it would be cute or funny or cool or sexy to have the only anachronistic pop culture reference or cursing or lewd double entendre.

If the intention is to clean up the server for a genuine classic feeling, the same rules should be applied equally. That means "Inglourious Basterds" and "Life Alert" need to be changed along with "Gandalf" and "Justin Bieber".

Yes, Starklen, you finally caught me after all these years. I named my characters on Xev, Sullon Zek, Kane Bayle, Stromm, Blade's Edge, Stormreaver and Uldum servers after a famous NPC in a game that I'd never heard of before today. "Alawen" is clearly not a vaguely elf-sounding name generated by Sony's random name generator ten years ago. I'm surprised I wasn't found out long ago! Isn't everyone familiar with Alawen, the famous archer of Cyrodiil. Why, she's the master trainer in Marksman!
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:23 PM
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"Help, I've fallen and I can't get up!"

Yes, we've all seen the commercials. Life Alert® is a registered trademark of Life Alert Emergency Response, Inc. While not as prominent as Inglourious Basterds, the guild name Life Alert also has no place on Project 1999. Naming a guild "Life Alert" is analogous to naming a guild "Kaiser Permanente", "Oxycontin" or "Gastric Bypass".

We all understand the naming rules and most of us understood them ten years ago. Some of us thought it would be cute or funny or cool or sexy to have the only anachronistic pop culture reference or cursing or lewd double entendre.

If the intention is to clean up the server for a genuine classic feeling, the same rules should be applied equally. That means "Inglourious Basterds" and "Life Alert" need to be changed along with "Gandalf" and "Justin Bieber".

Yes, Starklen, you finally caught me after all these years. I named my characters on Xev, Sullon Zek, Kane Bayle, Stromm, Blade's Edge, Stormreaver and Uldum servers after a famous NPC in a game that I'd never heard of before today. "Alawen" is clearly not a vaguely elf-sounding name generated by Sony's random name generator ten years ago. I'm surprised I wasn't found out long ago! Isn't everyone familiar with Alawen, the famous archer of Cyrodiil. Why, she's the master trainer in Marksman!
I agree with your premise, but I can't muster the will to actually care what a group of people name their guild, even if it is "Reverse Vasectomy" or something weird like that.

Unless there's legal problems in the server allowing someone to have the guild name "James Bond," or something similar, I'm really not concerned, even if "The Rules Aren't Being Applied Equally."

Rules are rarely applied exactly equally.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:28 PM
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I agree with your premise, but I can't muster the will to actually care what a group of people name their guild, even if it is "Reverse Vasectomy" or something weird like that.

Unless there's legal problems in the server allowing someone to have the guild name "James Bond," or something similar, I'm really not concerned, even if "The Rules Aren't Being Applied Equally."

Rules are rarely applied exactly equally.
You're okay, then, with different rules for different groups of players? Are you familiar with the concepts of rule of law versus rule of man? Do you believe that arbitrary justice will promote the growth and stability of this server?
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:32 PM
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The policy is about character names, not guild names. The only restriction on guild names is that they can't be offensive.

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Above all else, you may not choose character or guild name which, in the sole and absolute discretion of the Project 1999 Customer Service Staff, is deemed to be offensive or improper.
improper means breaking the naming policy rules, ergo "inglorious bastards" and "life alert" are improper guild names
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:33 PM
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Character. Naming. Policy.

I sincerely doubt we can make it any more clear.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:38 PM
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Character. Naming. Policy.

I sincerely doubt we can make it any more clear.
I think you need to read "The Project 1999 naming policy" again yourself.

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Old 09-17-2010, 12:41 PM
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I wrote the policy, Alawen. I don't believe I need to read anything again. The guild clause simply provides notice that we reserve the right to deny or change guild names that we feel are offensive or improper.

Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:43 PM
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Yes, Starklen, you finally caught me after all these years. I named my characters on Xev, Sullon Zek, Kane Bayle, Stromm, Blade's Edge, Stormreaver and Uldum servers after a famous NPC in a game that I'd never heard of before today. "Alawen" is clearly not a vaguely elf-sounding name generated by Sony's random name generator ten years ago. I'm surprised I wasn't found out long ago! Isn't everyone familiar with Alawen, the famous archer of Cyrodiil. Why, she's the master trainer in Marksman!
I'm not the one that cares if the naming rules are enforced. As you said though, equal enforcement for all.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:46 PM
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All this finger-pointing, arguing, and backstabbing over something so trivial.

Grow up.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:47 PM
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I wrote the policy, Alawen. I don't believe I need to read anything again. The guild clause simply provides notice that we reserve the right to deny or change guild names that we feel are offensive or improper.

Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill.
I would say that rule of law versus rule of man is very much more than a mole hill. I would also say that you are making it very clear that equal justice does not apply on Project 1999, which is, of course, something you are clearly entitled to do. It is, at the end of the day, your sandbox, and you can make whatever arbitrary rules and rulings you so choose about who gets to play, with what and for how long.

I've said my piece.
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