p99 red is ruined by this patch - Page 5

slizzy · #41 12-04-2014, 10:42 AM

people are just lazy walking around with their pve full dps gear.

Oh no, you might actually have to put on that resist gear and lose some dps gear when you pvp!

Oh the humanity!

180mr really is a pretty sweet spot, which brought the MR down to ~100 after tash or malo. Roots were landing sometimes in the range of 25 percent, after tash or malo, but were pretty much instantly wearing off and it -- yes, not full duration and if you had a 2 second root it was long! Mez, non rapture, maybe landed in the single digits so was very unreliable. We were testing it most of the afternoon while camping AZ in VP and yea, 180mr was a pretty major hard point. Whirls/blinds/snares weren't landing either at that point.

I'm sorry, but how is that not balanced? Trading out dps gear for resist gear seems legit for pvp. You lazy ass monks and rogues had it ezmode for years. I know for a fact 180mr is pretty painless to hit if you commit to it.

Bazia · #42 12-04-2014, 10:49 AM

naw dog put it back 2 ez mode autoattack rush, strat was good no reason to adjust this must be obv broke

HippoNipple · #43 12-04-2014, 10:50 AM

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Thats something they will have to fiddle with to get right but that i agree with. On Rallos to grief newbs in rags at least you had to risk something because of item loot. You were OP but you could lose your gear.

Now at end game it might be a bit different, i dont have much experience there, but since Melees were really strong, and i heard they were gonna get stronger in Velious, it cant be all bad.

I think the balance has to be right, its gonna be hard to gather honest feedback from players that have melee chars to 60 because lots of players only interested in self-interest and whats in it for me. More OP = more lulz for me. If we can have a couple of honest players though working with devs having some back and forth feedback, and devs sort through real feedback vs the im not so OP anymore tears, they could have something good.

I read every post in this thread except this one. I didn't read any of it.

slizzy · #44 12-04-2014, 11:02 AM

Besides, come SoV, chanters, shamen, druids, necros and mages will all be put back on farm status as everybody will have access to OP resist gear. Right now you have to lose dps gear to get decent resist gear but that won't be the case soon.

HP pools will pretty much put wizzies on farm status in SoV too as their 500pt lure will just tickle people.

ClubnRed · #45 12-04-2014, 12:53 PM

What fun is PVP if you resist everything, want easy go play something else scrubs.

Burgerking · #46 12-04-2014, 01:21 PM

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imo just start with the high end fully debuffed and work your way down. Someone with 255 MR debuffed with malosini and tash should have a 50/50 chance to resist MR spells. Make that your break even point and work off of it.

Someone tashed and malo'd should have a 50/50 chance to resist????

Please stop commenting on pvp it's painfully obvious to us all you never engaged in it on live.

If you were tashed and malo'd not even maolsini'd you were fucked on live, you were a puppet and they held your stings.

vouss · #47 12-04-2014, 01:27 PM

So 85 MR wasn't good enough to resist anything?

Burgerking · #48 12-04-2014, 01:34 PM

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So 85 MR wasn't good enough to resist anything?

You would still catch roots, snares and Cc effects at 85 not 100% but you weren't immune by any means.

Do we now play pretend that this isn't a 15 year old game with 3 years of kunark and gear vastly exceeding the average player on live.

vouss · #49 12-04-2014, 01:35 PM

at 255 MR on live with the 1.5 modifier you would still be at 135 mr, was that not enough either?

Burgerking · #50 12-04-2014, 01:42 PM

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at 255 MR on live with the 1.5 modifier you would still be at 135 mr, was that not enough either?

Why should we address anything you say when you're an Azrael alt posting on an anonymous account lying about being a new player?

Your disingenuous nature invalidates any serious conversation we could have about game mechanics.

The issue of root landing to well on high mr is already being addressed on bug reports the proper venue for debating these topics.