Raid scene: Variance Socking

[Raev]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's insanity

Not competition

the sock has been going for years on this server. The sock has become this server's worst enemy. It has become this entity, this Thing. It can no longer be controlled, consuming many lives in it's wake. Burning down players left and right. Back when we were creating the sock because of fags and their egos, I knew it would turn into this monster. It's never going to stop. Some ahole always has to find some way to get over on some other ahole and pee in his wheaties. It's just Human Nature.

This server isn't even remotely Classic anymore. It's become this mutant version of EQ where if you don't dedicate your entire life for precious pixels you suck at this game.

Pride/Ego is a helluva drug

The most remarkable thing is that it has been enshrined by the server staff as glorious competition, and if you don't like it you are casual R scum.

[uygi]

Casting my vote for spawns-per-month system instead of windows! Always been my preference, forcing people to prioritize. The big guilds (IB, TMO and, yes, BDA too) can't cover everything. You're forced to prioritize, and the more competition there is for a given mob the more you should maybe shift focus a little instead of jumping into an arms race over it...

[texwilly]

Originally Posted by uygi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Casting my vote for spawns-per-month system instead of windows! Always been my preference, forcing people to prioritize. The big guilds (IB, TMO and, yes, BDA too) can't cover everything. You're forced to prioritize, and the more competition there is for a given mob the more you should maybe shift focus a little instead of jumping into an arms race over it...

Yeah. I'm happy that this thread is starting to bear some fruit. I can't be the only person that fucking hates perma-logging my "elite" character. I like the idea of complete randomness on variance, my original thought was put mobs on a +-1 week variance, i changed it to +-72 so that it wouldn't be so threatening. As mentioned above, I really think that so many mobs in window is beyond the neckbeardedness we currently see. If you notice, IB and TMO have the same 5 or so people doing 90% of the tracking/FTEing.

More mobs in window will result in one of 2 things: we will need some goatee's to start growing neckbeards (IE: more basement dwellers to track endlessly) or we will start prioritizing targets and abandoning lesser targets. The latter would be my hope and would be the closest to classic that I remember.

Originally Posted by Rivthis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said it somewhere else,

Randomize the repop so it isnt locked at 1 week or whatever it is now.


A raid mob might spawn 3 times in 1 week or not once in 2 weeks.

Back when I raided on live we actually sent out trackers to find out what was before a raid would start, or do a bat phone if we accidentally found something up and a raid wasn't planned.

This is totally how i remember it. Raid time was predetermined at 5:00pm PST or whatever, we started tracking at 4:30 to figure out what we would kill. If nothing was up, we would work on epic encounters, faction, strats, whatever.

[Laugher]

So I was going to say tryred.gif but Nirgon beat me to it

so try plug.dj/project1999 .gif

can do it while sockquesting too

[Doors]

This has been and always will be blues problem. You literally need 60s camped out, buffed, at as many raid mobs as possible waiting for the phone to go off.

That is why blue sucks ass. End game anyway.

People are so disillusioned and butt hurt by what they read or have experienced on red99 but the server is so much better than this one. Raid mobs are static, you know when they spawn, you mobilize and engage them. No socking, no variance.

I know people flame anyone promoting the other server and to be honest I don't give a shit if you roll there or not but you're kidding yourself if you think blue is better. The only people that actually believe that are the clueless scrubs that never actually hit end game on either server or the constant alt rerollers that can't break level 46.

[Rararboker]

I think I am going to give red99 another try. Last time I tried the population was less than 50.

[Uuruk]

They are struggling to maintain the shit show that is blue now and with rampant rmt on red and blue there is nowhere to go but down. Play on red if you are tired of the raid scene on blue.... It's simple.

[Buriedpast]

Autistic valorians were never competitive. There was no rotation. And you were not superhotshit(tm) if you were in AV not HF/RA/FE, TW. You played eq 12 months later than the competitive guilds did.

Regards, fellow scrub.

[texwilly]

Originally Posted by Buriedpast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Autistic valorians were never competitive. There was no rotation. And you were not superhotshit(tm) if you were in AV not HF/RA/FE, TW. You played eq 12 months later than the competitive guilds did.

Regards, fellow scrub.

Thanks for the personal attack Motec, I actually know you better than you think. I never claimed to be "superhotshit", I was providing my background so people could decide my credibility or not. Beyond the insults though, my experiences in AV (not FE mind you) were of similar timelines as where we sit now. This "uber-guild" mentality is retarded because we are not trying to make this major push for new content. That fucking ended about 2 years ago. We are all farming shit now, not figuring new content out.

Server staff wants competition. Realistic solution is to eliminate it and play nice in the sand box. Class R already figured it out, class C neckbeards are too stubborn, resulting in all kinds of weird bullshit rules and lawyering. This problem is unsolvable without more content or a new server, as you eluded to "Project 2000" which I support as well, but I called it the "green" server.

No need to flame me back, as I know will be your first reaction.

[Buhbuh]

bros, just play red.