Why does everyone hate rangers?

[G13]

Originally Posted by Rangerdown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In what way does you playing benefit the developers on a free to play emu server?

What incentive could there possibly be to develop an empty box that nobody plays on

Don't you understand how attention/time investment = power

There are many indirect ways to make money on the internet. The marketing and exposure doesn't hurt either. That wouldn't exist if p1999 was nothing more than an empty box like Red. 1200+ people are playing here a night. Money is being made. Take your blinders off sir.

If you're not playing here. You're playing somewhere else. You only play here because it is marketed as "Classic 1999" Everquest. That's a lie though. It isn't.

You're clubbed like a baby seal with the "Classic bro. Deal with it" when you have to endure a retarded EXP penalty for far longer than any player actually had to deal with back in real classic. If this were really a Classic Server, special attention would be made to the length of time players had to endure the EXP penalty. It would have been removed long ago. Clearly it would be a beneficial change to average player's gaming experience here. Instead of beneficial development changes being made for all, the attention is shifted to game breaking changes like Variance to babysit high lvl egos.

Keeping the exp penalty in place should not be indicative of Velious launch. That ship left the dock a long time ago. Velious or not, it should remain in place only the length of time it existed in Classic EQ. Classic EQ emu right? Classic by the book right?

Throw the entire community a bone. Remove the class exp penalty or put bonus exp weekends in place until Velious is launched.

[Tuljin]

^ agreed, though I dont think removal of hybrid penalty will dramatically increase the hybrid population, if at all. I also am not sure how much it would alleviate the mix/max hybrid hating mentality that exists on this server which causes so much hybrid hate.

In the broadest sense, there are two types of people who play EQ - those who would consider playing a caster class and those who wouldn't. For those who wouldn't play a caster, hybrid is completely out of the question. Not only are they "weaker" than pure melee classes, you have the spells to worry about as well.

Someone who wants to play a caster class has lots of options. Really all caster classes are played quite heavily, with Wizard and Mage being significantly less played than the rest. If you roll a Shaman, Cleric, or Enchanter you will always get a group. If you roll a Shaman or Enc (or Mage if you're not a nub) you will solo farm the best cash camps in the game.

Why would anybody roll a hybrid?

The reason why, as previously mentioned, a Hybrid will either be awesome or a total nub is because of the caster/melee dilemma. The nub will be either a "melee" player or a "caster" player that doesn't have a full knowledge of either side of the spectrum. The awesome players rolled their hybrid with the specific intent of taking advantage of everything the class offers. Not only does this player understand magic spells, he understands the "EQ 101" of mob placement (tanking) and mob behavior.

Why is SK the most popular hybrid? Its not the "best" hybrid. It is the most similar to a pure melee with the ability to feign death. This is the class that brings the most players from the "melee" side of the spectrum. Not to mention theyre evil, menacing, and "not gay" which also attracts a melee only player. Players from the "caster" side will consider all three and make a choice based on what he thinks would be the best suited to his play style.

As far as xp penalty is concerned, the good players are aware of what they're getting into and have the skill to move the bar quickly. The nubs are left in the dust. Lets not forget that Iksar Monk carries a big penalty, as well as other evil melee classes. How many friggin Iksar monks are there on this server??

Unfortunately the xp penalty isn't going away, and I'm not convinced there would be a hybrid population explosion if it was removed.

[Waedawen]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're clubbed like a baby seal with the "Classic bro. Deal with it" when you have to endure a retarded EXP penalty for far longer than any player actually had to deal with back in real classic. If this were really a Classic Server, special attention would be made to the length of time players had to endure the EXP penalty. It would have been removed long ago. Clearly it would be a beneficial change to average player's gaming experience here. Instead of beneficial development changes being made for all, the attention is shifted to game breaking changes like Variance to babysit high lvl egos.

Keeping the exp penalty in place should not be indicative of Velious launch. That ship left the dock a long time ago. Velious or not, it should remain in place only the length of time it existed in Classic EQ. Classic EQ emu right? Classic by the book right?

Throw the entire community a bone. Remove the class exp penalty or put bonus exp weekends in place until Velious is launched.

Dude's got a point. 40% penalty for almost 5 years at this point. Completely bullshit.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Waedawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude's got a point. 40% penalty for almost 5 years at this point. Completely bullshit.

yea but that same logic means we should all be playing planes of power or something right now.

That said I don't like the xp penalty, cus its dumb cus Rangers & Hybrids dont have the benefits that Sony thought they would have and classes like Shaman and Enchanter and Necro etc all should have penalties... (although shaman kind of has a penalty in gear costs!.. so that evens it out a bit, same with monk!)

That said... what if that one guy, comes onto p99 to play this game that was a brutal grind for him when he was a teenager, and he wants that SAME brutal grind.. how happy would that person be when they got here and the XP penalty was still there and he got to do it all over again!? so happy.. Like I was when i found p99 like all of you were!

That's what p99 is all about.. its about rogan and co kicking ass being bawses and knowing whats good for us.

[Stormfists]

Yesterday I started P99 - and rolled a ranger. I've read the thread and agree with pretty much all points made.

Why? My main was a ranger in a bygone era - and he was badder than Samuel L Jackson in the diner scene. I was good then, and I believe I can be good once more.

Am I going to level slower than the rest of you? Sure - but I'm gunna have BMF etched into my swords and bow and do it with style.

XP penalty? Bring it on - I'm ready to rock Norrath again and again. This shit separates the men from the boys. Happy hunting.

Storm.

[Kender]

except rangers dont get really good till Luclin 8(

[Elmarnieh]

60 ranger here, both epics and all sky quests.

It is worth it for at the end of the long hard journey and it is that long hard journey that makes a player into a great player. Remember the words of Telin Darkforest " If we were warriors or paladins we would have a fancy ceremony and plenty of feasting but we're just rangers, without time for pleasantries."

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

60 ranger here, both epics and all sky quests.

It is worth it for at the end of the long hard journey and it is that long hard journey that makes a player into a great player. Remember the words of Telin Darkforest " If we were warriors or paladins we would have a fancy ceremony and plenty of feasting but we're just rangers, without time for pleasantries."

Do you have a guise? cus a DE ranger with lightning swords is.. just makes me so fricken happy.

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you have a guise? cus a DE ranger with lightning swords is.. just makes me so fricken happy.

Hnnngh I'll try to get there for you~~~~

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you have a guise? cus a DE ranger with lightning swords is.. just makes me so fricken happy.

Nah, was never interested in illusions except for the tree illusion stick that dropped of Glimmershine or whatever his name is from Lfay. I'm more of a practical person.