Charm kiting animals as a druid

[Estu]

Originally Posted by Skinned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reading this thread makes me want to start a druid. Maybe a druid alt is in my future [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been trying a wizard out, and he is 23, and I'm just not finding my groove.

I never played a druid before, my main is a shaman I thought it might be redundant, but I see druids running around in wolf form and get envious.

Not redundant at all. Very different classes. Wolf form is kind of annoying though because it fades on zone/log. But nice if you're going to be in one zone for a while.

Druid is definitely a very fun and versatile class especially if you're willing to experiment with charming.

[rafaone]

disadvantage? I get to keep my pet with 2 weapons. Get a couple of summoned weapons and see how much advantage killing your pet is.

No matter how hasted/Weaponed/Cybered your pet is, having a pet kill other mob and then finish both with a low level nuke will 99% give you more xp/time than having 1 pet over time from my experience. And if you're good enough and have the appropiate items (mostly ES Vambs, Lummy staff works wonders outdoors), the only 2 real spell you need to have memorized is your charm and your root. So there's no downsides to this method, and you can basically repeat it non-stop, gettig full xp check every time.

Yeah, but most druids will opt for quad kiting at 34. It may indeed be possible to get faster xp with charm, but quadding requires so much less input and time on your pc. Most of the time you can go afk while you're medding up an entire mana bar, and then it's like 4 mins work and repeat the cycle. Doesnt require any thinking either.

I quadded a lot when levelling my druid. I can tell you that having 4 social aggro mobs on your tail, specially when they are packed or when you trying to pull them it's not easy. I died quite a lot quadding, specially at raptors and 5-6 times in TD. There are a lot of things that can go wrong quadding, and normally an average levelling druid have exactly the mana to finish a quad (if not less), so you don't have the extra mana to root adds or add extra ensnares. That means death, if you don't have a zone nearby, or you don't have the skills to sit every six seconds to regain mana while running.

Normally when charming you have a lot of mana to deal with unforeseen events, because you only need your root/charm if you do it properly.

So basically I disagree with your methods/thinking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gav

[Stormlight]

Ideally my pet and target will both end up with low health. However, it's not uncommon for one or the other to be as high as half health when the other is nearly dead. Here's how I'm dealing with those situations, and I'm curious to see if there are any tips for improvement.

1. Pet at half: Pet back off, pet sit, break charm, root/rot pet and kill target.
2. Target at half: Pet back off, root/rot target, break charm, kill pet.

Would it be better to keep using a ~50% animal for charm?

[rafaone]

Would it be better to keep using a ~50% animal for charm?

If your pet is 50% or higuer when a fight is finished then you're probably sending it against the wrong targets. Anyway, if you want to get full xp for both of the MoBs you're using (your pet and the one it's fighting) the only way is the one you show in your point number 1.

Pet at half: Pet back off, pet sit, break charm, root/rot pet and kill target.

Cheers !!

[Estu]

Originally Posted by rafaone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If your pet is 50% or higuer when a fight is finished then you're probably sending it against the wrong targets. Anyway, if you want to get full xp for both of the MoBs you're using (your pet and the one it's fighting) the only way is the one you show in your point number 1.



Cheers !!

Alternatively, you could just send your weakened pet after another mob, then break charm when pet is almost dead and charm the second mob. When you're charming animals you should be doing as little damage yourself as possible since it's way more efficient to make the mobs do the damage for you. Of course, this assumes that there are plenty of animals around to fight, and not that you're sending animals to attack non-animals. If you're doing that, the way to avoid this scenario is to send the pet at monsters which are higher-level than it, and use flame lick + ensnare to manage aggro so both die at the same time.

[Stormlight]

Originally Posted by rafaone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If your pet is 50% or higuer when a fight is finished then you're probably sending it against the wrong targets.

At 16-17, the fights with gorge hounds were more predictable because I could tell which ones were higher, but now at 18 they're all dark blue. I've been putting my DS on pet so usually it comes out ahead and I can all but guarantee a one-nuke kill to the target and not worry about my pet dying if it's lower hp and the target resists root. I guess if I DS a higher level mob it has a big advantage.

[rafaone]

I would probably get rid of the DS on pet then and simply put a DoT on the mob your pet is fighting if you see the ties against your pet. You will have more control on the fight this way.

Anyway - you will find this becomes much easier at higuer levels when root is more reliable.

Good levelling !!