Server is dead

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i might be more retarded than drakaris

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naw

[Bazia]

Originally Posted by Drakaris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL...

So lets get this straight... I start on a server and the choices are Force, Nihilum, Azrael... Out of those 3 guilds, Agatha was the main person I chatted to from Azrael, Oppressor/Deathe was the main guy I would chat to from Force and Vaamp/Vyrenoth was the main person I would chat to from Nihilum.

I grouped with Erdriick/Vaamp/Vyrenoth quite a bit and was generally ganked by non-nihilum melees with epics while levelling (mainly rogues, cos hey, its the easiest one to get), so the decision was a no brainer.

Did I join Nihilum for pixels? No.

Have I gotten pixels? Sure have, but not as many pixels as Lite and his band of merry men for the raid time they invested. These guys geared their core on the backs of hopeful apps, which were all left empty handed once Nihilum laid down the law.

I love this server and do agree server balance is healthy, but Azrael were only interested in gearing their inner circle and once they were being muscled out, their focus solely became Phara Dar, which tells you alot about their motivations. Sad thing was when they were on top and in the #1 spot they still shitted up the forums and ooc, playing well into the notion of being sore winners.

Many of the new Hokuten players are pretty cool, I just hope they don't burn out and take PvP personally (which can be really hard as a new player).

So where are all these Azrael with Phara Dar gear? They have more or less retired as self-proclaimed winners of R99, with the exception of a small handful...

TLDR

Didn't join Nilly for pixels, joined because of pals.

Other guilds are full of forum trolls and retards, eg Azrael (with the exception of a few such as FoH, RD and Hokuten).

no one cares about the novel above, just saying this server always dies because everyone joins 1 guild and ppl like urself who insta join just make the process of server death even faster

[Drakaris]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no one cares about the novel above, just saying this server always dies because everyone joins 1 guild and ppl like urself who insta join just make the process of server death even faster

But that's the point, when has there been suitable opposition worth joining? Look at how you guys run OOC and the forums. It didn't take me long to want to join Nilly because the alternative is a much more shittier group (or at least make themselves appear to be).

In truth Agatha and his bro were pretty awesome to play with outside of guild raids and I hope I could be doing stuff with them in the future, so I guess there is a chance some of u guys would be cool to play with, but the way you guys conduct yourselves on the forum on a frequent basis destroys all hope of any association from our less extreme player-base.

[Bazia]

its about loot and thats it, the "Other people are douches" excuse doesn't work when half your guild is made up of people who were in the other same guilds your complaining about

u got ezpk/strydur/etc types and no cares becuz loot is flowing

thats the only reason people join the big guild is too progress their character as fast as possible to the detriment of the server as a whole

i mean it sux its the individuals responsibility to stop the server from being a 12 person server again but with this low of a population pool its just how it goes

[georgie]

Originally Posted by Drakaris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL...

So lets get this straight... I start on a server and the choices are Force, Nihilum, Azrael... Out of those 3 guilds, Agatha was the main person I chatted to from Azrael, Oppressor/Deathe was the main guy I would chat to from Force and Vaamp/Vyrenoth was the main person I would chat to from Nihilum.

I grouped with Erdriick/Vaamp/Vyrenoth quite a bit and was generally ganked by non-nihilum melees with epics while levelling (mainly rogues, cos hey, its the easiest one to get), so the decision was a no brainer.

Did I join Nihilum for pixels? No.

Have I gotten pixels? Sure have, but not as many pixels as Lite and his band of merry men for the raid time they invested. These guys geared their core on the backs of hopeful apps, which were all left empty handed once Nihilum laid down the law.

I love this server and do agree server balance is healthy, but Azrael were only interested in gearing their inner circle and once they were being muscled out, their focus solely became Phara Dar, which tells you alot about their motivations. Sad thing was when they were on top and in the #1 spot they still shitted up the forums and ooc, playing well into the notion of being sore winners.

Many of the new Hokuten players are pretty cool, I just hope they don't burn out and take PvP personally (which can be really hard as a new player).

So where are all these Azrael with Phara Dar gear? They have more or less retired as self-proclaimed winners of R99, with the exception of a small handful...

TLDR

Didn't join Nilly for pixels, joined because of pals.

Other guilds are full of forum trolls and retards, eg Azrael (with the exception of a few such as FoH, RD and Hokuten).

lol exactly what I saw on the last shit box before r99 beta I think it was devnoob or some shits server. andis is a kike jew. gave him info to a druid and he strips the gear lol. fucking hilarious. anyways not even mad bro, it was one of those ding 50 by 2nd day morning servers. along with his other 4 butt buddies don't even remember the names just remembered one sounded like he had never been laid breathing over the mic hard.

[iiNGloriouS]

Nihilum; where you cry about everyone behind their backs due to them deleting your gear in the past, deleting your toon, hoarding guild banks, or RMTing. But still shut the fuck up because you have no place in any other guild when people realize how shit tier you are.

Example; See Checkraise in PvP, or almost any Nihilum member.

[Cid]

I do not understand why anyone who played on the Live servers would come to believe that what has happened on Red with Nihilum is caused by PvP, a result of low population or that the outcome was unusual or unique in any way.

The much larger populations on Live may have created a buffer between the big guilds and the general population, but monopolies existed on every server, PvE or PvP. It has been more excessive because of forums and ooc and voicechat make all the shit-flinging public.

We're not exactly the cream of the crop of the old players either. We're the addicts still clinging on to idealized memories for whatever reason we each have to justify our actions. It does not make us bad or immoral, just more likely to pick the faster paved road over the gametrail through the mountains. Both lead to the same place, and each side has a pedestal to stand on and try to look down on the other.




Every guild can be dethroned. If I still had the drive I used to have on Live I could probably build a guild that could topple Nihilum. It takes more effort and self-sacrifice than any sane person would agree to and then you need a handful of people you trust without hestitation that you can convince to put the members ahead of themselves.
Don't make a heirarchy either, be democratic officers.
I had six other officers so no dispute was a tie and it worked incredibly well. Lead by example, because people will always resent the one ordering them around and they will hate the guy that has BiS gear and acts like he did not need others to get it all.

Basically, what you need ideally is a group of people who aren't the kind that usually play on Emulated servers. If you think you can do it, then do it. Another two years of forum wars isn't a better use of your time and effort.

Oh, and before I forget, one little lesson I learned the hard way is that the Guild Leader and the Raid Leader should NEVER be the same person. Those two roles are supposed compliment, oppose and sometimes even restrain each other. If one person is both then the entire guild is dependent on them and completely at their mercy.
If you want to be both, you should not even think about making a guild. You cannot be a good leader with selfish intentions.



Whether you listen or ignore me is up to you, and doesn't matter to me at all. I've already practiced what I preach and I have nothing to prove anymore. I am probably a pretentious asshole, but I know what I am talking about and I have yet to see a Leader on Red that cared more about others than themself, let alone one that could inspire loyalty instead of buying it with gear

[Fame]

just unplug, fuck.

[iiNGloriouS]

Originally Posted by Fame [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just unplug, fuck.

I miss you Fame. How's the life of the rich n the famous treatin' ya