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Old 06-20-2014, 08:12 AM
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Uses kickstarter to fund last movie after first two lose money.


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THE IRONY

Ayn Rand pretty awful dawg.
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Old 06-20-2014, 09:35 AM
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What part of "if you're not going to read and think instead of just being condescending in addition to wrong I'm not going to talk to you about this" do you not understand?
You make the mistake of thinking what I say is to try and get a conversation out of you. I have no interest in having a 6 year old argue about the existence of Santa Claus with me. Instead my words are meant for those who may still be on the fence about the existence of Santa Claus, or who have never heard there isn't a Santa Claus, and who have an open mind and may be able to understand the truth about the Santa Claus.
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Old 06-20-2014, 09:41 AM
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Uses kickstarter to fund last movie after first two lose money.


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THE IRONY

Ayn Rand pretty awful dawg.
Exactly how is that ironic? Last I checked, kickstarter was a free market tool and doesn't rely upon coercion or force. It's just another way of peacefully and voluntarily collecting money from those who want your product. That makes it perfectly in line with Rand's philosophy.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:55 AM
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You make the mistake of thinking what I say is to try and get a conversation out of you. I have no interest in having a 6 year old argue about the existence of Santa Claus with me. Instead my words are meant for those who may still be on the fence about the existence of Santa Claus, or who have never heard there isn't a Santa Claus, and who have an open mind and may be able to understand the truth about the Santa Claus.
Nah. You just want to feel like you "pwned" someone on the internet because you know, somewhere deep down, that you have no ability to think critically, apply concepts, and come up with a novel approach to anything. You are a parrot. You hear someone say something, and you memorize it as a clever little slogan and you spout it. You think I haven't heard every lame insult, every facile point you've made, every empty word you've said here a thousand times from a thousand pathetic intellectual weaklings just like you? You haven't reached any of these conclusions yourself- you've heard them on TV, MAYBE in a couple of books. You're not 100% on how they actually work- your "don't you see that regulations create monopolies??" point is a great indicator of that. You're speaking in oxymorons and contradictions, but you have no idea. Meanwhile, every time you try to rebut something I've said, you demonstrate an absolutely fantastic inability to actually comprehend the thing that was said that you're not limp-wristedly trying to rebut.

Here's the thing: I don't feel like playing your game. I don't feel like allowing you to feel like you've "zinged" me because you repeat the same sad Santa Claus insult and pat yourself on the back for your ability to not really say anything but to feel like you've come out on top.

You talk about open-mindedness, but come on. You have no interest in learning anything here. You never did. And it shows.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:57 AM
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inb4 "I know you are but what am I lol you're talking about urself", and also out of here
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Old 06-20-2014, 12:01 PM
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Exactly how is that ironic? Last I checked, kickstarter was a free market tool and doesn't rely upon coercion or force. It's just another way of peacefully and voluntarily collecting money from those who want your product. That makes it perfectly in line with Rand's philosophy.
Begging should be against Rand's philosophy. That's what Kickstarter is.
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Old 06-20-2014, 12:04 PM
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Begging should be against Rand's philosophy. That's what Kickstarter is.
In that case trying to find an investor for anything would be considered "begging"

Stop being dumb.
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Old 06-20-2014, 12:07 PM
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Begging should be against Rand's philosophy. That's what Kickstarter is.
It could be argued that while begging is against Rand's philosophy, the freedom to give your money to a cause at your own discretion isn't. But, stronger than that is the argument that going on kickstarter and handing someone money in exchange for not only the feeling of superiority and philanthrophy from having done something for someone else, but also neat little prizes and perks increasing in neatness according to how generous you are, is fundamentally objectivist. I'm sure they would say that cancels out the "begging" argument. I'm not inclined to agree.
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Old 06-20-2014, 12:09 PM
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In that case trying to find an investor for anything would be considered "begging"

Stop being dumb.
Not really. Investing is a business deal. You put in money, you get money out. These perks are mostly non-beneficial. If you really want to follow this line of reasoning, you'd be better off saying it's more like selling goods and services, posters and autographs and trips to the studio and such, at extremely overinflated prices with the intention of using the profits to fund the movie (which is ok for Rand) and if people are dumb enough to fall for it, that's cool
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Old 06-20-2014, 12:10 PM
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In that case trying to find an investor for anything would be considered "begging"

Stop being dumb.
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