how hard is it.

[Not Salem]

+ your brother is a lying thief

[Agatha]

Originally Posted by Not Salem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

+ your brother is a lying thief

that seems to be the party line, doesn't it.

[Tewaz]

I hope you guys figure out something. I am rolling my first red toon into the 40's and most groups are 75% people that are new to the server from blue. There are a lot of people watching the high end game and sadly, Nihi looks like the best option.

[Not Salem]

yaw if joining in on 50 man uncontested raids is your idea of an option then you probably shouldn't bother with Azrael

[LulzSect]

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[BeautBabeC]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope you guys figure out something. I am rolling my first red toon into the 40's and most groups are 75% people that are new to the server from blue. There are a lot of people watching the high end game and sadly, Nihi looks like the best option.

Joining the biggest by far guild on a pvp server seems like the best idea? Did you come here to raid and fight almost every battle with the odds in your favor? pst to Kergan or Elderan sounds like you got a lot in common.

[hivemind]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope you guys figure out something. I am rolling my first red toon into the 40's and most groups are 75% people that are new to the server from blue. There are a lot of people watching the high end game and sadly, Nihi looks like the best option.

Nihilum is absolutely the best option for newcomers to red. Especially newcomers from blue. What do you even consider to be the options at this point? Nihilum... or... Azrael?

If you want loot, join Nihilum (they kill 90-100% of the end game bosses, and have killed close to that percentage for the majority of the server's history). Azrael, their main competition, is particularly weak or otherwise disinterested in the server currently making Nihilum's stranglehold on the server seem even more predictable looking forward. Coming from a blue server (raider) I imagine that you can appreciate the promise of 90-100% of dragon kills week after week, compared to whatever sort of chance you would have on the blue server with 4x as many people and who knows how many other guilds to compete with. I honestly have no idea what % of bosses the "top" guild(s) kill week after week, but I would assume under 90-100%. I have no idea though, since I have never had a character on that server.

If you don't want loot, then there is reason to consider other guilds. It should be noted that PVP at 56+ is much more limited and far less spontaneous than pvp at any other level bracket, largely because the vast majority of PVP end game is PVE motivated, and all bosses die over the course of basically 2 days, leaving roughly 5 days of sparse PVP (at best). Far from spontaneous... much more contrived than any other type of PVP you could hope to encounter in Everquest. The winners of pvp at 60, whichever tag they may bear, walk away with a weeks worth of dragon loot after 1-2 battles (typically) of "Mass" PVP, instead of just simple coin loot. In this sense, winning in PVP is very similar to winning in PVE. So if you want to join a guild for PVP (ie PVE), join Nihilum.

You might have friends in guilds, and you'll want to join a guild so you can play with your group of friends. Statistically speaking, if you're joining a guild for this reason you are probably joining Nihilum because they comprise the majority share of the server. But if you primarily want to play with friends, then that would be a potential (albeit statistically unlikely) reason to join a guild other than Nihilum.

But if you are joining a guild primarily to acquire exp (quantity), loot (quantity/quality), connections/friends (quantity), then you are objectively better off joining Nihilum. They are currently the most dominant guild on the server, historically the most dominant guild on server, and barring some sort of big change--they are going to be the most dominant guild going into velious. There is a severe lack of competition on this server both now and historically.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by hivemind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nihilum is absolutely the best option for newcomers to reds. Especially newcomers from blue. What do you even consider to be the options at this point? Nihilum... or... Azrael?

If you want loot, join Nihilum (they kill 90-100% of the end game bosses, and have killed close to that percentage for the majority of the server's history). Azrael, their main competition, is particularly weak or otherwise disinterested in the server currently making Nihilum's stranglehold on the server seem even more predictable looking forward. Coming from a blue server (raider) I imagine that you can appreciate the promise of 90-100% of dragon kills week after week, compared to whatever sort of chance you would have on the blue server with 4x as many people and who knows how many other guilds to compete with. I honestly have no idea what % of bosses the "top" guild(s) kill week after week, but I would assume under 90-100%. I have no idea though, since I have never had a character on that server.

If you don't want loot, then there is reason to consider other guilds. It should be noted that PVP at 56+ is much more limited and far less spontaneous than pvp at any other level bracket, largely because the vast majority of PVP end game is PVE motivated, and all bosses die over the course of basically 2 days, leaving roughly 5 days of sparse PVP (at best). Far from spontaneous... much more contrived than any other type of PVP you could hope to encounter in Everquest. The winners of pvp at 60, whichever tag they may bear, walk away with a weeks worth of dragon loot after 1-2 battles (typically) of "Mass" PVP, instead of just simple coin loot. In this sense, winning in PVP is very similar to winning in PVE. So if you want to join a guild for PVP (ie PVE), join Nihilum.

You might have friends in guilds, and you'll want to join a guild so you can play with your group of friends. Statistically speaking, if you're joining a guild for this reason you are probably joining Nihilum because they comprise the majority share of the server. But if you primarily want to play with friends, then that would be a potential (albeit statistically unlikely) reason to join a guild other than Nihilum.

But if you are joining a guild primarily to acquire exp (quantity), loot (quantity/quality), connections/friends (quantity), then you are objectively better off joining Nihilum. They are currently the most dominant guild on the server, historically the most dominant guild on server, and barring some sort of big change--they are going to be the most dominant guild going into velious. There is a severe lack of competition on this server both now and historically.

Yeah.

[Xer0]

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florida is gay

I second this notion

[Mac Drettj]

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